• dogbert@lemmy.zipOP
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    19 hours ago

    Obama still wins. He deported the most immigrants of any president in history. Libs only care when Republicans do it.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/06/19/obama-trump-deportation-numbers/84257245007/

    Pretty disgusting the way you’re writing off those deaths, as if it’s normal for 7 people to die every year in these facilities.

    By that logic we can also write off the murder victims of ICE as just 2 people. Americans get shot every single day right?

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      17 hours ago

      The contexts of the deportations matter.

      I think deporting to foreign prisons in nations that have nothing to do with country of origin is new, and more cruel. Ignoring need for asylum too. Returning an undocumented immigrant that came from Mexico that ‘just’ came to get better pay to go back and walk free in Mexico is a whole lot of difference.

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      18 hours ago

      Yes, Ice has a job to do, combat illegal immigration. Were there roving bands of ice agents attacking cities en mass during Obama? Democrats are not political fan boys like Republicans are. They are elected officials expected to do the job they are hired for in a dignified manner, unlike Republicans. Republicans get elected to elevate hate and break down discourse. And apparently overthrow democracy?!

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          12 hours ago

          How does one just steal land? I’ve heard of adverse possession, and that’s legal all over the world to various degrees.

          I think the word you want is conquer, though. That’s a debt typically paid in blood.

          Cheers.

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            LOL ‘conquer’ and ‘paid in blood’
            That is pompous nonsense and totally not applicable.
            There wasn’t a great battle heroically fought between armies where the victor takes the land.
            No, it was vast empty land where you could encounter some peaceful indians now and then.
            americans just put a fence up and called it theirs, nothing was conquered.
            Lying to the natives and slaughtering them with superior weapons doesn’t count.
            The same cowardly way the US fights now, bombing defenseless brown people from a distance and then walk in to plunder it.
            The John Wayne heroic fights were just as much BS as the Iraq, Afghanistan propaganda movies now.
            The US is a nation of thieves, and worse mass-murderers.
            Cheers

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        18 hours ago

        lmao, it was “dignified” when Obama deported 3.1 million immigrants 🤣

        Americans are getting exactly what they deserve right now, and you’ve proved it.