Why do some car lovers oppose bike infrastructure, when more bikes would mean fewer cars on the road?

Like you sit in traffic for an hour each day to work. Wouldn’t you want to halve that by having more other people use bicycles instead?

  • SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works
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    12 hours ago

    They don’t ride bikes and they don’t see many people riding them for practical uses (work, shopping etc) so for them it’s hard to sell the idea of bike infrastructure (that they think is for mainly recreational riders) making their commute slower and taking up tax money that could be used on other projects.

    I get how this is flawed thinking and I want more pedestrian and bike friendly areas, but that is their perspective.

  • Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexus
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    11 hours ago

    Many good answers have been given already. One more is that many people understand it would be better for the environment and their own health if they biked instead of driving a car. Yet getting a car was one of the symbols of having the means for a good life. If you are able to let go of your car, it shows that you have held pointless things as important parts of your identity. You don’t want to have been a moron, do you?

    So, you suppress the idea that you could be doing something else than what you are doing. And other people bicycling is kind of in-your-face. They show that you could have an alternative, and that causes a feeling of guilt in you. And that feeling of guilt is uncomfortable, and the people riding their bicycles are what have triggered that feeling. In other words: They have ruined your day by making you feel guilt. A completely self-created guilt, but an annoying feeling all the same. And then you hate everything that is connected to those people that keep ruining your days by the virtue of visibly existing.

    This is not necessarily the reason for all of the people opposing bike infrastructure, but it is one of the important reasons for many.

  • Horsecook@sh.itjust.works
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    12 hours ago

    Where I live, building bike infrastructure means removing a lane of traffic, or parking, to install a bunch of curbs, poles, and large rocks, to create a bike lane that largely goes unused, while traffic is substantially worsened.

    Here’s an example of a work in progress. When this was taken they hadn’t yet filled the holes they’d dug in the road with the rocks.

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    10 hours ago

    I think some of why is related to how most people in a traffic jam go “damn this traffic” not “damn, I’m making this worse”

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      7 hours ago

      Or “if only the city would open a new lane, it won’t be as congested”. Sometimes followed by “why dId the city shut the road, that’s just going to make traffic worse” when the council shuts the road for expansion works.

  • EndOfLine@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    In short, it’s selfish myopothy. “I don’t see how this will immediately and directly benefit me so I oppose it and, now that I have made my uninformed knee-jerk decision, I refuse to listen to opposing arguments that might cause me to admit that I was ever wrong about anything.”

    You might recognize this behavior in other aspects of society. It is not isolated to transportation infrastructure.

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      12 hours ago

      Look at the comments from others in this thread and it will give you a good idea that this isn’t just a knee jerk reaction

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        10 hours ago

        That’s evidence for some people having more than a knee jerk response, it’s far from statistically saying it’s the most common rationale. Smart people are also amazing at having a knee jerk reaction and then making it sound well reasoned with clever arguments.

        I agree its not just a knee jerk reaction, and I know I don’t have a good basis for how many are knee jerk vs rationalised but I do know I’ve been around plenty of people that seem to have a knee jerk reaction and plenty that demonise the culture, hell half the world is being bullied not to have windmills and some of that is blanket anything green is dumb

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    11 hours ago

    Because conservatives ultimately do not believe in anything beyond helping the in ground and hurting the out group. That is it. Everything else is just window dressing.

  • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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    9 hours ago

    because, overwhelmingly, they’re dumb and selfish and ignorant, and they choose to be that way.

    some aren’t. some are willing to be educated. but not most.

  • CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    They think of it as a zero-sum game. There is either a bike lane or two car lanes. The number of cyclists is fixed and the number of drivers is fixed. If there is one less lane to drive in, there is more traffic. If you spend limited tax dollars on bike infrastructure, driving infrastructure will not receive necessary maintenance.

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    5 hours ago

    That very thing you said at the end is usually already too much thinking for car brains

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    12 hours ago

    I think it’s mostly pavlovian.

    It’s not that they follow some chain of reasoning to arrive at opposition to bike infrastructure, but that the mere idea triggers anger, and the position follows the mindless emotional response

    See also: pretty much everything that they consider “woke.”

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    12 hours ago

    Because they lived in world of lies. They don’t care about facts or studies, they only care about being angry at someone and the media they consume say that cyclists are the problem