TikTok users are deleting the app, with removals up 150% following U.S. joint venture
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TikTok users have been deleting the app at a higher rate since the company announced that its U.S. operations would be housed in a new joint venture.

TikTok users have been deleting the app at a higher rate since the company announced that its U.S. operations would be housed in a new joint venture.

The short-form video platform’s daily average app uninstalls in the U.S. have increased nearly 150% over the past five days compared with the previous three months, market intelligence firm Sensor Tower told CNBC.

  • renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.netEnglish
    21·
    20 days ago

    I just recently deleted my account and uninstalled the app. I’m not going to lie, it was hard because I had finally curated my algo to some pretty decent content that wasn’t just brainrot trash.

    But I’d rather be bored than give Oracle anything.

    EDIT: Also Loops is neat from a technical standpoint, but it feels like a ghost town coming from TikTok.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      20 days ago

      A lot of these services really hinge on a tight-knit community of active content producers who fuel engagement and reap some kind of dividend on the back end.

      Loops is a technology but it’s not much of a business. The company is literally run by just two guys. They’re not going to bring on prolific content producers without a much more aggressive marketing strategy.

  • eronth@lemmy.worldEnglish
    19·
    20 days ago

    Up 150% sounds crazy… but like, what’s the rate of installs vs uninstalls here? How has the rate of installs changed?

    • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      83·
      20 days ago

      Yeah if 4 people uninstalled the program last time, and 6 people uninstalled it this time, that’s a 150% increase from last time.

      • edgesmash@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        20 days ago

        4 -> 6 would be a 50% increase, or 150% of the previous number. 4 -> 10 would be a 150% increase, or 250% of the previous number.

      • Sunflier@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        19 days ago

        Nope. Your math is wrong. 6 people uninstalling would be a 50% increase from the 4 since 2 (the extra people uninstalling) is 50% of 4. For a 150% INCREASE you’d need 10 to uninstall (4 for the origional, 4 more for the extra 100%, and 2 on top of that for the extra 50%).

      • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
        4·
        20 days ago

        The vague part is:

        say uninstalls are 1000 / day, so that’s 100%

        up 150% is 2500 / day, so 250% of nominal

        or is it :)

    • Meursault@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      20 days ago

      This wouldn’t be an issue if people learned the difference between “percentage” and “percentage points”.

    • Soup@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      20 days ago

      You’re very right, though for me the abiguity comes from not being confident the person using the thing understands.

      I think you already get this, but “Applications are 150% of normal” means you add 50% and “applications are up 150%” means you add 1.5x the original. There’s really no room for interpretation it’s just that errors happen anyway.

    • Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      97·
      20 days ago

      Tbh I learned a lot about other cultures through tiktok and recently the US have proven that no matter how much chest pounding about freedom they do, they can be just as authoritarian as any other, even ignoring the invasion of other countries, literally murdering their citizens in the streets and abusing women and minorities, so the app being owned by a Chinese company was not really as big of an issue as others have made it out to be.

      Now that ownership has changed, there’s an active suppression of american sensitive topics on the platform, so that’s already a visible downgrade.

      I wish someone more neutral could offer a real alternative that people would jump on.

      • bearboiblake@pawb.socialEnglish
        52·
        20 days ago

        mate… the US is by far the most evil country on the international stage, the whole china scare stuff was the US telling everyone what they’ve been doing to US-owned social media all along… this is nothing new or surprising, if you’re just now waking up to this reality I’m sorry you’ve been asleep for so long, but I’m sorry to let you know this is gonna get worse before it gets better. The only chance the US has of avoiding falling deeper into fascism is to have a socialist revolution.

      • docgerbil@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        20 days ago

        Technically speaking, the application has egregious security concerns that have been well documented. A shame that most of its users don’t care or are ignorant to this.

    • Lfrith@lemmy.caEnglish
      131·
      21 days ago

      Not surprising, since you’d need tp be willfully ignorant to have used tiktok when it first came out with all the privacy concerns even back then with the app doing weird things.

      And those who use it despite that are pretty addicted to the content on it. They in the same category as those that continue to use twitter.

  • flamingleg@lemmy.mlEnglish
    51·
    20 days ago

    It was an almost perfect medium for sharing cooking videos and recipes, can anyone suggest a replacement?

    Don’t worry I’ve already uninstalled it (months ago when Ellison bought a majority stake) but I haven’t found a replacement short-form video platform for recipes yet

  • oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zipEnglish
    36·
    21 days ago

    My siblings were debating issues with it and about how willing they were to just deal with it.

    I’m just shocked at how addicted everyone is to it that it could probably say “Trump is watching all users’ front cameras while the app is open” and kids would still be like "hmmm what are the odds he watches me though?

    But everybody’s a zombie.

    I mean I downloaded it, back really early, to take a peek. After 15 minutes, I decided I hated the short format, and peaced out.

    It seems to largely be a generational thing. Millennials are (in my perception) mostly on it just to make money, zoomers just want that crack IV drip.

    Obviously this is just a trend, and there are counter examples everywhere, but that seems to be more true than not. At least from the outside looking in.

    And given it’s totally obnoxious censorship rules, now I have to deal with hearing about people getting “unalived”, or “adult fun time”, and “p 3 dee oh” from creators that multistream. Even without being there, I’m forced to experience the cancer secondhand.

    That’s my main problem with it. None of the other problems affect me directly much since I’ve always avoided it, but that is smeared all over my shit.

  • switcheroo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    32·
    20 days ago

    More enshitification. Whatever the current “administration” touches turns to shit, dies, and rots.

    Boycott everything you can that’s from the US. Even if you are IN the fucking US. Nazis are not your friends (and if they are, fuck you, you’re a Nazi too).

  • lechekaflan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    41·
    21 days ago

    Vine used to be so fun and simple.

    That was fucking eons ago.

    Its replacement has so many issues on many levels.

    • Gorilladrums@lemmy.worldEnglish
      24·
      19 days ago

      That’s because Vine was designed to be fun and simple. Users only had 7 seconds to make a memorable video, and so people got really creative with it. You can’t possibly convey anything of value in such a short duration, so people just used the platform for fun.

    • forkDestroyer@infosec.pubEnglish
      15·
      21 days ago

      My life has only gotten worse since getting addicted to forums and social media. I’ve become much less productive as well. Feels bad :(

  • FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineEnglish
    52·
    21 days ago

    1. Good

    2. It was the same brand of red fascism before and after. Algorithm and databases still in Beijing, a few days ago the backup on Oracle went online.

  • network_switch@lemmy.mlEnglish
    1·
    19 days ago

    Mildly entertained how fast it went from a bill to give the executive power to designate applications as security threats and ban them to then it being abused. A lot of folks saying the EFF and ACLU were wrong this time and then the EFF and ACLU being right less than 2 years after the bill passing. And it’s not like TikTok has been around all that long. 2021 all the pearl clutching about China’s influence ruining the youth just look at the zoomers entering the workforce - the app was popular for like 2 years at that point. Everyone people were complaining about were raised on Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter. Not only that, TikTok was about the only social media platform that leftist were pretty good at compared to right wingers. The ridiculous dichotomy of leftist supporting a bill to ban TikTok while TikTok was core to the lefts grassroots outreach and networking. So now TikTok is right wing owned and Instagram and YouTube are still the same kind of content that people blamed TikTok for and have had for much longer.

    That bill in 2024 was a Democratic Party self own especially when the bill wasn’t even TikTok specific. Somehow saw masked plain clothes federal agents kidnapping people in 2020 to pretty much no consequence and decided in 2024, the federal government won’t abuse this bill

  • Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish
    15·
    20 days ago

    For anyone looking for new alternatives, I’m sure most Lemmy users can suggest more open-source pubfed options, but for anyone trying to generate a bit more presence (not that there’s much) I did find a YouTube video highlighting some “indie social media” sites, mostly focusing on nostalgia of simpler versions of the historically popular ones.

    Having the whole world operate off of publically-owned shared systems is probably an ideal, but having them at least in tight competition, with easy destinations to abandon off to, is still quite a bit better.