So we’ve gone up from 4th Amendment violations to the 5th Amendment. Soon it’ll be 6th, and the 13th is a little shaky.

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    So, if we ignore that 4th amendment violation and note how often this administration violated the 1st amendment, I will note that 1 + 5 + 6 + 13 = a 25th amendment solution.

    You can’t argue that math! (Literally, it can’t be argued with!)

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      I won’t argue with you on that math… but unfortunately the pedophile certainly can argue against the 25th… he is unfortunately livid enough to deny it.

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        Livid, or lucid?

        Either way, there isn’t anyone in the executive with a spine, so the 25th is never going to happen, anyway.

        The only way the fascist pedo will be removed is via impeachment and force, or on Jan 20, 2029, but again likely by force. And the only way impeachment would happen is if Dems get a majority in the House (could happen) and exceed 2/3 majority in the Senate which is unlikely to happen.

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          There is another way. God has the final veto on his performance, after all. Perhaps He will send His Last Cheeseburger soon, to redeem us all.

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          Not lucid, but no one who has the legal power to invoke it wants to threaten what they’re getting from him staying in position. It’s not just Trump; I’d say that he isn’t the real problem, just a symptom allowed to persist because of the rot elsewhere.

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            100%. Rot is everywhere. And while it began decades ago, it was exponentially sped up due to the Citizens United decision.

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    This shit will happen every day from now on until something is done about it- and complaining doesn’t seem to be the solve.

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      I hate to admit this but I’m terrified to go beyond complaining. I don’t want to have to fight these fucking ghouls. But I guess the pool of options is evaporating.

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        I feel ya. But doing noting hasn’t really moved the needle much. Complacency teaches repetition.

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                That’s what I thought, debate bate.

                And would you look at that! It comes with a bonus MAGA accusation! A two-fer!

                I’ll digress…

                If it might help you later on, it’s best not to make assumptions based entirely on someone’s unwillingness to argue with you online. It just ends up making you look like a fool. And we really don’t need that now when we’re supposed to be unified.

                Just some friendly advice.

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                  Also, if you were doing something that could make you a target you’d have to pretty fucking stupid to talk about it openly on the internet

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                  That’s what I thought, debate bate.

                  LOL, “debate bate”, this is a discussion forum. You’re insulting me for using such a forum to engage debate?

                  Let’s just be honest, you’re deflecting because you don’t want to answer my question.

                  And would you look at that! It comes with a bonus MAGA accusation! A two-fer!

                  Yes, your obvious deflection is akin to MAGA tactics, they do it all the time. You’re doing AGAIN, right here.

                  If it might help you later on, it’s best not to make assumptions based entirely on someone’s unwillingness to argue with you online. It just ends up making you look like a fool. And we really don’t need that now when we’re supposed to be unified.

                  Lol, you’re so full of shit, what a joke. I’m not making an assumption, your refusal to answer IS an answer. You feel free to encourage others to get themselves killed while doing NOTHING yourself.

                  Just some friendly advice: everyone can see what’s going on here. Pretending to be too high and mighty to engage in debate is a thin veneer for your clear unwillingess to answer a simple question.

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              bate

              I think you mean bait. Just trying to help.

              Bait and bate are homonyms, sound the same but have different spelling and meanings.

              bate /bāt/ transitive verb

              1. To lessen the force or intensity of; moderate.
              2. To take away; subtract.
              3. To lessen by retrenching, deducting, or reducing; to abate; to beat down; to lower.

              bait /bāt/

              noun

              1. Food or other lure placed on a hook or in a trap and used in the taking of fish, birds, or other animals.
              2. Something, such as a worm, used for this purpose.
              3. An enticement, temptation, or provocation.
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              LOL, what the FUCK? How? That makes no sense.

              Me asking some random person encouraging others to get killed what he is contributing makes me a “narc”?

              These internet warriors are trying to incite violence from the safety of their keyboards. They deserve to be called out. And the fact that all you can respond with is a childish, irrelevant insult says it all.

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                “You want me to post my secret illegal plans on a public forum?”

                “Oh crap, I shouldn’t have said I had plans”

                “Oh crap, I shouldn’t have said they were secret”

                “Oh crap, I definitely shouldn’t have said they were illegal”

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                It’s ironic af that you accuse someone of childish insults, when all someone has to do is read further down to see your grandiose display of sheer vitriol.

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        As a German I wish you all the best and hope you can avoid the worst.

        It won’t be easy.

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        Don’t fight these ghouls. They are a symptom; oligarchs are the disease.

        Register your complaint with the richest person within driving distance.

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          I remember this one guy registered a complaint with a CEO and it basically turned him into a national heartthrob

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      Maybe we should twerk in the street some more and keep begging Democrats.

      /s for fuck’s sake.

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          Yeah let’s pass the buck for the democrats some more. They are clearly the best people to run the opposition! /s

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            You allowed Trump to come to power. That makes you a scumbag. You want to pretend like you have the high ground when you helped a convicted felon, pedophile who tried to overturn our democracy and is currently destroying the country get elected? Absolutely not.

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          Yeah, who wouldn’t get super motivated to go out and vote for “we are terrible but we could be worse”

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            Imagine being so daft that you aren’t voting as a civic duty, let alone against fascism.

            By not doing that you ensure that more drastic measures HAVE to be taken later on. Great job non voters.

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              You are defending the party that refuses to be popular in a country that chooses leaders based on popular elections. Think about that, while you think about how doing the same thing expecting different results is the definition of stupid, as you prepare to browbeat and yell down everyone for the next aristocratic corporate whore offering nothing but empty platitudes to a population in the face of republicans cheating.

              You people have made our situation hopeless, unwilling to admit a mistake you are dragging us all into the abyss.

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                I’m not saying they can’t be better.

                I’m saying people should vote as a civic duty and maybe shouldn’t be complete jackasses who sit at home and let fascism win. Two things can be true at once.

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                  And I am saying that without getting popular opposition, and at this Point aggressive opposition with organization behind them, a group that knows how to build and run a political machine, then there is zero chance of rescuing the republic. You guys refuse to engage that point and bring it back to if only everybody believed harder and voted. Everybody went way out of their way to get Biden elected in the face of attempts to fix it for republicans, and he did absolutely God damn nothing with it. Then settled us with a doomed to fail candidate, and he was doomed to fail if he stayed in either.

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                refuses to be popular

                Yeah that must be it. OR you think a pedophile convicted felon is the better choice for president.

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              I didn’t say whether I voted or not. I said the Democrats messaging wasn’t exactly the stuff of inspiration.

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                  Nobody asked me if I voted. They just assumed I didn’t because I said the Democrats ran a shitty campaign that failed to energize people. It doesn’t matter anyway, harris won my state by a huge margin.

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            Option 1: They invade cities

            Option 2: They don’t invade the cities

            Option 3: Don’t give a fuck about the people in the cities <- This is the option you are supporting here

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    If any group has zero rights, all it takes to remove anyone’s rights is attaching them to that group.

    It’s an all or nothing thing

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    Why even talk about any constitution when your government doesn’t care about any laws?

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    “I don’t know whether they’re incompetent or if they chose to do this, but it’s not good.”

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    In my local jail, it can take up to a week to be able to call someone but typically more like 3 days. This is because the phones in the holding cells are often broken, so you need to wait until after bail is set and you go upstairs, and then they charge money to make the calls. Meaning, if you don’t have an account already set up, you’re going to have to wait until someone is willing to show you how to set it up. That’s just for regular criminal issues.

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      When someone requests an attorney, all questioning stops dead. If they continue on, it becomes fruit of the poisonous tree.

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        If they continue on, it becomes fruit of the poisonous tree.

        so just shoot them or strangle them in holding. That’s what is going on.

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        Believe it or not but most cops aren’t as virtuous as Stabler and don’t have a pretty blonde DA around to challenge them over what they would be willing to do to seek justice. And a “good” attorney can often work around that.

        But also, that doesn’t change anything. From skimming the article, it sounds like he wasn’t being interrogated without a lawyer. He was just being left to languish in confinement. Which… is how the us legal system “works”.

        This is less “ice are bad” and more “all cops are bastards”

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        Yeah not really though. They say that answering any question waives that request again. Like what is your name? If you don’t repeat the request for the lawyer it’s waived.

        And police lie.

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      Obviously, this is why you should keep your habeas attorney on retainer at all times. (/s)

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    Lets just accept that none of these people know what a person rights are. Even if they do they know they don’t have to honor them. Their denial of basic rights make them criminal but once again no lawful agency will act to stop it. In these circumstances there will eventually be a massacre. One that no lawful agency will act on except to punish those that are not state supported participants.

    They want a civil war thinking that they can kill half of us and still have a functioning country.

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          For this?

          They want a civil war thinking that they can kill half of us and still have a functioning country.

          No. We had one back in 1861, and they thought the same thing then too.

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            You really need to read up on the civil war. Having said that since this is also your first time you need to pick a new meme.

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              Yeah, you might need to read some of the journals from the soldiers and maybe remember they evolved into the Klansmen now sitting in office. Not saying the articulated, states-rights reasons. I’m talking on the personal level of those who volunteered to fight for the South. Back then, hate for the left (the abolitionists back then) was being peddled to them through things like religion or newspapers (though maybe not as far reaching as like with Twitter) just as it is today, and some joined up to murder the abolitionists.

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                I have read more than I ever want to about it. What is happening now is nothing like the first civil war. What is happening now is from germany in WWII. Its in their words and its in their actions.