• Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca
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    10 days ago

    My favorite is when MAGAts claim immigrants are taking our jobs, while also claiming immigrants are sucking off the government teat getting free rent, healthcare ect because they are too lazy to work. Schrödinger’s immigrant.

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      10 days ago

      Never forget that many of the the biggest MAGA bootlickers have their income subsidized by the government…

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        10 days ago

        It’s one of the better reasons why a national divorce from the blue states and red states sounds like a better and better idea each and every day into this administration.

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          10 days ago

          I live in a blue state and while I definitely do not want to live in a dictatorship, I am also not ok with abandoning the impoverished in the red states to that either. Just because the government of the red states are idiots doesn’t mean the population is worthy to be sacrificed.

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          Imagine suddenly shifting freely open state borders to restricted international ones. It would be ridiculously disruptive.

    • TheEmpireStrikesDak@thelemmy.club
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      They have a point though. Musk did indeed take the US president’s job for a while and was simultaneously living off welfare (gov subsidies for his private businesses). Oh and according to his brother, he’s an illigal immigrant too.

      He’s the only example I can think of.

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      10 days ago

      That’s due to Immigrant Jorge. He works ten million jobs and is a statistical outlier, he should not have been counted.

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      I mean fuck them and everything truly, but is this really such a paradox? It’s not like both can’t be true: say the men get jobs and the women and children get welfare. Or some immigrants take jobs and some are lazy and don’t. You can even get welfare while working if you are poor enough.

      I’m just saying - trying to fight this mindset by calling it an impossible paradox will not work because that doesn’t even make basic sense. I know you’re only parroting what’s been said in a million tweets, so I’m not blaming you for inventing this idea. Just maybe stop repeating it like it’s a super clever gotcha. It isn’t.

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        Illegal immigrants do not get welfare. Undocumented immigrants cannot receive things like cash assistance, food stamps (SNAP), Medicare, or regular Medicaid.

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          8 days ago

          Your typical MAGAT would tell you that those might be the rules but they aren’t followed, or are defrauded. Fraud does exist, at least.