Anon is not alone in this…
They already showed their cards so they’ll not come back with a warrant. This is more about intimidation than anything else.
I’ve had the same thing happen to me. “Can we search your house? It will help you if you have nothing to hide”. Fuck off cunts. They didn’t try again.
Adding onto this one:
I suspect they are searching your trash. They roll up to your house, tell you there’s a bunch of “suspicious” shit tied to your address, IP, a cell ping in the area, whatever. The point is to scare the shit out of you in the hopes that you trash any “incriminating” property.
Then they search your trash (which does not require a warrant, let alone notice), find your shit, and then come back to arrest you.
The point here is fuck them. They didn’t bother to create a warrant, so they dont get to complain when you decide to upgrade your PC, slag the old drives, then keep them on your coffee table as conversation starters. If they had a warrant, that would be different. They dont.
Don’t let them scare you stupid. Continue on as normal. Maybe invest in a different ISP because some like to snitch.
Pretty much.
If OP had something incriminating, they would already have the paperwork they need to grab it.
Police knocking on your door is hoping you would give them information to arrest you. Proper swat team breaking down your door means they already had it.
ICE doesn’t count. They’re not cops.
Yeah, you can tell a cop is fishing because they’re talking to you. If they thought they could get what they want without talking to you they’d just be arresting you or doing violence to you
“Can we search your house? It will only help you if you have nothing to hide”.
Help me how, to get arrested faster? lmao
“If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear” remains at the top of my list of bullshit lines of “reasoning” I’ve ever heard in my entire life.
I removed the “only” from my text because it was a bit ambiguous.
But yes it was exactly that. It’s like they consider themselves to be the law. “You’re either with me or against me”. Typical BS.
It’s mostly cops that think they have something to prove and try to do stuff by themselves.
It’s all cops. The sooner people wake up to this, the better. It’s not some cops, it’s all cops.
They do think they’re the law and they think everyone else is either a criminal or a weak and defenseless person to protect or hurt
On one hand, I loathe pedophiles and the awful black market that they use to trade whatever
On other hand, I wonder how often the “law” just uses this to get rid of people who displease them, they just install the appropriate stash with a thumb drive while “scanning”.
Decades in prison, asset forfeiture, who would stop them or even be able to prove it? The modern equivalent of planting drugs (which they are caught doing frequently already), and nobody wants to defend pedophiles.
Worst case scenario for them? The taxpayers pay for a lawsuit settlement and they might get paid leave for six months
This was literally the plot of Blake’s seven except they also installed the memories into his brain and that of the children.
Yeah, but why bother? They can just turn off the body camera and shoot them in self defense. Same outcome and way less work.
They do that already (gun them down), but they can’t kill too many people! It’s like they have a murder quota.
So, for the rest they plant evidence on, drugs and this.
Also, many of them are sadists and prefer the torture route (like 40 years in prison).
Making a martyr vs discrediting everything someone has ever done, and turning their family/friends/everyone against them and their ideology.
Hmm…
You forgot the bonus of putting a pedo in the ground. The public does not exercise any skepticism when the accused is being accused of pedophilia.
cops kill a thousand people every year and every year the number goes up. How many of them even get written about?
chemical castration is the correct way to solve ops problem
If there’s not a thermite microcharge hovering above your crime drive are you even really posting? Ctrl-Super-M (for melt) and that sucker’s a puddle
Irl they’d just refuse to leave, and maybe shoot your dog.
Irl they’ve already bugged your home and the train arrives 0800 tomorrow morning, you will never be seen again.
Step 1: Back up important files
Step 2: boot from live Linux USB
Step 3:dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/nvmeX && dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/nvmeXRepeat as many times as you wishThis, but encrypt the backed up data with full disk encryption.
If you have nvme use secure erase first.
Use a live Linux ISO that can run entirely in memory, and run step 3 in an infinite loop. Take the USB with you and leave the PC running.
I’m dumb, what does this do?
Write random data in the drive over and over again, with one or two pass there are some sophisticated techniques that can get some sliver of data out if the random. But with 3 4 passes and more it’s statistically unlikely they can recover anything.
Runs step 3 in an infinite loop
congrats for torrenting the latest disney movie off their honeypot
Thanks for seeding Disney
Their fault for torrenting without a VPN
Would it be possible to wipe some files off the PC without leaving any traces?
Yeah, but there will be a trace that something was wiped if you use certain tools and didn’t then fill that empty scrambled space with a bunch of games or something.
“Why do you you have 47 installs of Roller Coaster Tychoon anon?”
“I was multiboxing.”
I don’t believe any local law enforcement, at least where I’m at, has a cyber crimes team capable of knowing this and pursuing it even if they did. Federal level? Sure. But if they’re coming they already have warrants and you’re fucked. Local doesn’t invest money in stuff like that.
burn the ssd/hard drives
What did anon even do to be on the radar, this is just not credible. They would never show up for a chat if that was the case, they would collect evidence quietly.
4chan green text? Not credible?
No way!
Green and gay of whatever
Anon was probably downloading csam
If that was the case, a warrant would have already been obtained.
I don’t think that’s a logical assumption at all. But something to keep in mind. Especially now, with the administration going after journalists, leakers, and soon if not already critics, people that make fun of them, that criticize Israel, etc.
They would like us to assume everyone whose computer they are seizing is looking at child porn. They could also frame people for that.
So if there is anything on your computer, deleting it just destroys the file directory to it, they can find it still, you have to delete everything, then rewrite over it with new information.
I recycle ewaste, and so I have boxes and boxes of old hard drives. My proc is single pass dban and then a 10mm hole drilled through the case and onto the platters.
This is for normal business eol hardware that I get from offices and warehouses, nothing sketchy.
If the client wants evidence of destruction before leaving premises, I skip DBAN and just drill the platters with a cordless drill.
Drills, big magnets, hammers etc… work too
Feels like it’s easier to just not have anything on your hard drive that’s worth that much effort. I can only think of one type of file that would justify that level of obfuscation in most of the world, and I actually fully support owners of those files turning their PCs over to the police unmolested, so to speak
Really? Looking around America right now(or any other fascist nation for that matter) you can’t think of a single other reason why someone might want to hide electronic communications to the extent of not being recoverable?
Destroying the data on your hard drive only helps you if you think that files stored on it could incriminate you in court. ICE isn’t sending your laptop in to a special forensics technician at DHS HQ to pull the 1s and 0s off of it to generate a justification for abducting and/or shooting you. Standard end to end encryption is plenty enough for online communications
ICE grunts are not the only threat of fascism.
Do you maybe want to try and converse? Instead of leaving a vague response hinting at a deeper perspective, how about you actually share that perspective? Who else do we have to fear at present, and how do you reckon rendering a file on your computer irrecoverable would protect you from them?
By my reckoning, if you live under a government that would arrest you for excercizing speech, you’re well beyond fucked by the time they seize your computer
Big magnets will only pull the arm off the plates and leave the data intact. Also why waste good hardware when all it needs is a couple of writes with all zeroes and ones?
Maybe your don’t have time
tbh I completely forgot about the context of this post. Yeah shredding takes longer than getting a warrant from a corrupt judge
Mircrowave.
Just take out anything LiON prior to nuking, and as much pure metal housing as you can.
And also plan on getting a new microwave.
And have a fire extinguisher on hand.
and do it outside and throw the microwave away so you don’t die from NO2 poisoning…
shred /dev/sda
Hah. TIL you can use shred on device files. I was only familiar with using dd to wipe drives.
Sounds like time to wipe PC and install a clean OS
Yes, wipe it all, write over it all, then wipe the entire operating system and install linux, as something you had been planning on doing for a long time anyway. If they say otherwise in court you rant to the jury about microsoft.
Any excuse to install Arch.
Fake: cops obeying the law and following due process? Really?
Gay: Anon clearly took “be gay, do crimes” seriously… too bad he didn’t take his opsec as seriously…
Real: anon has cp on his drive
Hetero: he didn’t bend over to the cops
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I like how much lemmy hates AI yet this AI bot has 37 updoots
Oh the pain of it all :(
I’ve started to find other bot accounts on lemmy, and I don’t love it. Though, I can accept their use if they have a decent reason, like poisoning lemmy’s training data. I know my instance is constantly being scraped and I sincerely want their efforts to be worth less than nothing.
It is very arguable it would be a crime to wipe a computer with only the police asking to warrantless search it. It’s a crime to destroy any evidence of a crime so I guess there is that.
They have no evidence there was a crime though. I don’t doubt they would charge it, but a jury wouldn’t likely convict because it’s a bullshit charge. You are under no obligation to incriminate yourself with your own evidence no matter what the police and prosecutors say.
IANAL, but I think it’s only a crime if it’s destroyed after a warrant has been issued.
Or if a court has ordered you to preserve the information. And the establishment routinely flouts court orders to preserve information with impunity
I’m very glad you’re not a lawyer.
https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/blog/destruction-of-evidence-charge/
This says you just need to know what you were destroying was evidence, which Anon clearly does.
do so knowing that the evidence is to be produced during a legal or court proceeding
If they haven’t accused you of anything yet, deleting “how to rob banks.txt” is just normal cleanup. Anon can’t know what might be relevant evidence after some cops ask to see his computer and leave. Of course, some files may have legal restrictions regardless of crime, for example financial records.
They absolutely have accused him of something though, they explicitly said they suspected him of suspicious activity online.
