• JigglySackles@lemmy.world
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    Never had heroes because basically this. Almost all people in a spotlight let you down eventually. Something about being rich makes people into depraved cunts.

    Maybe not Dolly Parton. She’s been consistently good. Mr Roger’s too. But still, not many people on the list.

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      Yup! Mick Foley and John Tenta are my only childhood favorites that I can still look back on with adult eyes, and think they are/were genuinely decent human beings.

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        Perhaps in a purely academic limbo of examining the writing techniques, but that’s not the world any of us actually live our lives. “Death of the Author” is a cop out, especially when the author still lives.

        Fundamentally I won’t ever be able to pick up my teenage favorite Sandman again without seeing the parallels between Neil and Morpheus rape, entrapment and abuse of the women who they lord power over. My own personal emotional connection to any of his character, worlds or stories is irrevocably shattered. I can’t view that as a character flaw, but more of a self-insert to Neils personal fantasies.

        It sucks but that is where we are at now. :/

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    All of them, and I haven’t even looked. If anyone is horrible, we all are horrible. My enjoyment of something they did does not change that.

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    Not really “heroes” but several pastors / youth leaders from when I was young got caught in sex scandals and embezzling. My childhood bully became a youth paster and got convicted of sex crimes against minors.

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    None of them, really. Mr. Rogers was genuinely as awesome as he seemed. As a young adult, John Von Neumann, Grace Hopper, and Claude Shannon became my heroes. None have anything particularly bad that I’ve seen.

    There are some people whose work I admire whom I don’t like, e.g. Harlan Ellison was famously an asshat. But they’re not my heroes, and the work is not the creator.

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    Back when I started getting an interest in tech back in middle school I looked up to Bill Gates

    In high school I used to think highly of Elon because of all the promises he was making with Tesla, space X, etc

    I think it’s safe to say those opinions aged like milk

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      Bill Gates is probably the only one on the list I have a positive bias for cuz he’s spent sooooooo much money buying goodwill.

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        He owns Goodwill?! That probably explains why their prices have become exorbitant, no longer thrifty. And all the best donated items aren’t even available for in-store customers to buy. The best items get set aside to be posted to eBay for maximum profiteering.

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          You serious rn? I’m talking about the Melinda Gates foundation and I’m using the meaning of “good will” that Good Will based their name on fyi

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    Bill fucking Cosby. That guy was a generational idol.

    Back in the '00s, he used to give speeches down at college campuses around the country that supposedly promoted ethics and social values for young men. The most famous of these, the Pound Cake Speech, was given out during the 50th anniversary of the Brown v. Board of Education Supreme Court decision at an NAACP Legal Defense dinner, ffs.

    He was this pinnacle of Respectibility Politics. This Model Minority. The quintessential American father figure. An intellectual. A charismatic icon. A pillar of the community.

    Oops. Fuck. Oh well…

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      Oof that speech did not age well. Basically a ignore systemic racism and just pull your bootstraps extra hard coming from a wealthy person is about as hollow as you can get.

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    Not so much a hero but I admired his work the projects he is associated with: Elon regarding Tesla & Space X.

    I had heard that he was a bit of a nightmare to work with but I just chalked that up to the usual tech CEO being a bit of an arsehole but still delivering the vision. So admired the projects but wouldn’t personally work for him.

    The first time I came across something that gave me the impression something was off with him was when he called one of the Thai cave divers a pedo after the diver rejected using an unproven single person extraction canister Elon proposed.

    It was just so uncalled for. Then the more I read and saw stories about him my opinion of him wained further down to a spoilt nepo-baby cosplaying as a design engineer who’d do best to get out of the way of the actual engineers trying to do the work.

    Now I think the world would be better off without him and I hope the talented engineers currently work for him leave to find fulfilling employment elsewhere in the space and electrification industries as soon as possible.

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      when he called one of the Thai cave divers a pedo

      I think that was when he exposed himself widely to be a garbage human.

      He actually won a court case saying he didn’t defame that guy by calling him a pedo, so I’ve been calling him pedo elon for awhile. But then it turns out he’s all over the Epstein files, so he was actually a real pedo all along. Guess I have to start calling him a double pedo or something.

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      Same with Musk. I was teaching engineering courses at the time of the first falcon heavy launch. I actually stopped my class so we could watch the launch. When those boosters landed in a perfect synchronous ballet, I told my class it was “engineering as poetry.”

      Why couldn’t Musk just stay the fuck out of politics?

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    I never really had heroes. I did see some people are more trustworthy or credible but never another I ever gave hero status to. The entire idea seemed strange to me.

    I will say I was right about Elon Musk. There was just something about him I couldn’t put my finger on that screamed monster and nobody believed me. I just had a weird ick feeling about him.

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      I remember having to write a paper in elementary school about my “hero”, instead wrote about how I don’t have one and why.

      I think I still got a passing grade at least.

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    Schwarzi when he made his comment regarding covid but since he retracted thoses and I dont feel it s enough to abolish all his accomplishment.

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    Turma out the Austrian painter committed horrible crimes in this universe :')

    I want to go back to my original timeline