Will the current turbulent situation lead to a third world war?
Probably not because Iran has no atomic bomb.
I would argue that we have been in WW3 for a while … since this whole “de-globalization” started.
World wars are hard to define … what started WW2? Is there a single moment in time? Was it Pearl Harbor? Was it the invasion of Poland? By the time the Germans Invaded the conditions for world war had already been around for a while.
I’d argue that we’re currently in the “appeasement” phase of WW3 … I just hope that it’s a cold and mostly economic war … and not one with global drafts and attrition (altho Russia and Ukraine already have broken that barrier)
“Was it Pearl Harbour?” Tonnes of countries were involved already, it was already WW2 for a while. The blitz of London was started and ended by the time the US was attacked at the very end of 1941. They were plenty happy to let everyone else fight it out and then when they got attacked suddenly they were the altruistic heroes of man.
our history books (Every country’s honestly) are choke full of propaganda. I only noticed because I got formal education from 3 different countries.
I found it very interesting for example … that Spain does not teach about the inquisition or the spanish american war.
Flip side, in the US there’s nothing in our books about any of Europe’s history at all.
US history sounds even worse than our Canadian history classes. Just complete garbage. And then you see what people are learning in other countries and you have to wonder why we act like 10-12 years isn’t enough time to fit in any reasonable amount of our, honestly, very short history.
From what I’ve gathered from the comments, I think we’re safe so far
No, WW3 won’t happen until China goes for Taiwan, and even then that’s just another step, dunno if that would explode into a bonafide world war.
No, Russia and China don’t give a shit. Russia is too busy with losing to Ukraine, and China isnt happy with Iran bombing places that actually give China more oil than they do.
No
Iran has been stirring shit for too long for anyone with military credibility to step in on its behalf. It’ll be a regional conflict at most.
“the WW3”
Ah, yes, “the world war 3”. That’s how words work.
You understood what they meant. Don’t be an ass.
No, this is just Iraq again, but with the victim throwing bombs at everyone close this time
We’re already at a two front war.
Depends. Can the galling regime in Iran motivate a Shiite revolution across the world and can they do gorilla warfare from tunnels in Iran’s mountainous regions for a long time. And distrupt the flow of oil sufficiently thus causing the us dollar to collapse and thus the global markets along with it (Rothschild banks USD as international reserve currency etc etc).
The us is distracted so China might take the opportunity to take Taiwan. That will herold in the end of the consumer driven economy enjoyed by the western world cos trade with china drives everything.
When markets and quality of life collapse this bad u either get a populist revolution (eg Hitler, Stalin, etc) or the government starts an economic rejuvenation project (war driven economy).
The economy is essentially just a function of how effective a population is at turning resources into product. Wealth concentration has got so heigh we are approaching the point that people can no longer consume the GDP. Thus u need a product sink else the economy stops. Thankfully the war driven economy already proves an excellent resources sink (war itself). Orwell predicted this yet nobody listened.
We might get to be the ones to witness the death of liberty, but then again the pots boiling so slowly their is little chance we will know when that happens. Who’s to say the final blow to liberty hasn’t already been dealt and we just can’t see it yet.
The odds just got higher. If China goes for Taiwan, and the US goes all out to defend them, I’m willing to say thats it, WW 3.
It won’t be as cinematic as the second, but that’s my line.
US would help Taiwan just as much as Russia is helping Iran.
They are tied to elswhere atm.
We all know what happens to countries trying several fronts at once.
War is about logistics, logistics and logistics. Remote wars bring more logistics in play. And they are burning munitions fast in Iran.
If China invaded now, the US would help Taiwan as much as we are helping Ukraine.
We could defeat China in a few months by blocking the Malacca straight.
Unless Xi cut a deal with Trump.
China doesn’t need to do anything, the US could just do what they just did and attack first.
Correct, if the US goes after China, that would also be ww3.
Yep, just trying to adjust framing to realistic scenarios
Things are looking pretty fucking bleak, but not in a “Spanish flu in the trenches” kind of way.
The US is turning into fucked up Gilead.
Water shortages are about to be a thing.
Drove past Glen Canyon dam the other day. Everything in the area has high water due to early snow melt, and yet powell lake and glen canyon are noticeably low. Gonna be bad year for anyone downstream.
It’s gonna be a bad entire foreseeable future. The laws governing how much water can be used from the Colorado River were all made during an unusual wet spell that they mistook for normal; it can’t actually supply that much. Unless the politicians manage to get their shit together and reduce the allocations, levels are just going to get worse and worse and worse until there’s nothing left, even if the weather isn’t bad.
If China and Russia had come to Iran’s aid then it would be WW3.
But they didn’t so it’s just going to be dusty Vietnam. Again.
No.
While the Trump admin is idiotic, the Iran conflict is just a repeat of the events in the later half of the 20th century.
Russia has exhausted itself trying to obtain some paltry mineral resources.
China is highly aggressive and will continue to expand into neighboring countries like they have already been doing, they’re the most likely cause of a widespread global conflict, but judging by their incompetent handling of Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran as well as their rapidly declining population due to irresponsible governing (they executed or exiled most of the social policy experts a century ago and put a missile defense scientist in charge of the bureau that tracks population trends resulting in the One Child Policy) I doubt they will be confident about any longterm wars. Still, they constructed a mostly underground military city near beijing 10x the size of the pentagon, so they’re definitely planning something.
Fact of the matter is, for all competent leadership, war is less efficient means to obtain things you want than trade. War has become too expensive in the 21st century. Only idiots wage war.
Xi understood that 10 years ago, but he’s purged or fired everyone near him that would tell him that now.
The US understood that 4 years ago. But then we elected Taco for a second go round.
I’m not saying they will, I’m saying that dictators and fascist assholes don’t always do that makes sense.
I forsee America entering a debt crisis and China might see that as an opportunity.
