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Pretty wild! All states give you at least 30 days to dump your baby, no strings attached. Some states give you 60 days!
I feel like more people should know about this! It seems like a highly under utilized ability.
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Reasonable. Now who’s gonna bet that some dip shit in Washington makes it illegal because “mothers should face the consequences of their decisions” or some bullshit.
Call me a cynical old bitch but when the US does something reasonable I always think “how they gonna fuck it up this time?”
Can you drop off your baby, once a month, for a couple of hours on a date night?
Nah, I was thinking something along the lines of the Right saying that Young mothers are abandoning their kids because “they’re selfish” or “they are avoiding responsibility” so some state passes a law that states that abandoned kids get DNA tested and traced back to their mothers so they can be forced to raise kids they can’t afford/can’t raise “to protect the family”.
The US has a track record of fucking over women and girls, what with their war against contraception, abortion, adequate child care, etc. It wouldn’t surprise me if the next move is “stop women giving kids up for adoption” under the guise of “protecting the family” or “personal responsibility” or some shit, but in reality is just a way to create cheap labour from underpaid women with a mouth to feed.
KY is making abortion pills controlled substances, like heroin. Women must be punished apparently
Reasonable for the mother. The baby is rolling the dice.
Healthy babies are in high demand for adoption, so the odds are good, but not perfect, and its a terrible system to get stuck in, at least in my state.
Healthy babies are in high demand
Healthy white babies are in high demand.
True, if you aren’t white, the decision is gonna be a lot harder.
And people are going to use that argument to get rid of safe haven zones.
Nebraska had no age limit for a bit. Guy dropped off 9 of his 10 kids(1 was 18) cause he felt overwhelmed after his wife died a year earlier.
10 kids jfc
I’m more concerned how he had ten kids and then felt overwhelmed when his wife left him. Like what the fuck?!
Grieving for a partner definitely doesn’t make it easier to raise your children?!
And I’ve not met many men with 10 kids who are super into doing the whole “dividing the labor of parenting evenly” thing, and I went to catholic schools, I knew some big families. And even if he had been the type to do that, you aren’t winding up being the breadwinner for a family with 10 kids and having both low stress finances and a low stress job. So adding in lots of extra home duties and possibly reduced financial capabilities and mourning will probably wreck you.
That said, I’ve never met a family that large where the parents kept actually parenting beyond number 3 or 4. Some of the most horrifically parentified people I ever met were middle daughters of large families. Also the kids are struggling too, and each of them is likely to have taken some lasting psychic damage from being abandoned by their dad, even temporarily, shortly after their mom died.
Died, not left.
And likely yeah, someone would get overwhelmed doing two peoples’ jobs.
Because he didn’t do Jack raising them probably
Or doubling the responsibilities was too much.
Double it and pass it to the next person
If doubling was to much, it would have been enough to “only” drop 4-5
As long as we are doing hypothetical, he may have been working long hours to pay for all the costs while she was stay at home. When she died, working all the time and trying to care for kids and grieving is going to be massively stressful. Bot to mention the aunt for 7 of the kids decided to have a custody battle so lots and lots of possible things leading to being overwhelmed.
But you clearly assume he is a deadbeat because he’s a man. Have fun with that.
What has him being a man to do with all that
Because he didn’t do Jack raising them probably
Would you have assumed the same lack of parenting if the father had died and the mother dropped off the kids?
Wtf! That is insane 🤣 good read!
There is something similar called “baby hatch” in Germany, but those are usually located at hospitals. Why the fire station? It makes no sense to me.
Fire stations are everywhere, staffed by trustworthy people, who inevitably also have medical training. Additionally they aren’t scary like the police are.
They’re the people you call if you need help.You can surrender an infant at a hospital too, as well as a police station, but fire stations are just more frequent.
Hospitals in the US are kind of scattered, largely as a result of private equity tomfoolery. A lot of communities don’t have one nearby. But pretty much every community has at least a volunteer fire station, and I believe all firefighters are required to be trained in at least first aid, if not be fully-qualified EMTs.
ALso they are in places that arnt easily reached too, and in busy traffic area, so not safe.
They are local to every town and always have people there
Firemen are the only honorable public emergency service left in this country. all the rest are just out to murder people (source: am an american.)
Fire stations are more anonymous, however you can give up rights to your child at Fire Stations, Police Stations, and Hospitals (far as we know) there are even some numbers and child protection will pick them up. Reason is because they rather take the child safely than deal with well… yk
Why the fire station?
they’re staffed 24/7
Hospitals close for the night?
whic do you think there are more of, hospitals or fire stations?
In many states fire service is also emergency medical service.
Fire stations are public utilities owned by local governments. Also, hospitals are regularly visited by people, whereas fire stations are more private as they mainly send out and return from dispatches.
It doesn’t have to be fire stations. But they are commonly used for a few good reasons.
They’re relatively ubiquitous. It shouldn’t be hard for someone to locate a fire station. They’re almost always staffed 24/7. They’re trained on basic first aid. Quite often, they’ll even have medics on staff.
Very importantly, though, they don’t have a lot of people coming in and out of them. One of the big benefits of this program is that there are zero questions asked and it’s as anonymous as you wish. The people who use these are often afraid they’ll be judged as a failure. The lockboxes have a built-in time delay so you can leave before the station is alerted.
A while back I fell into the rabbit hole of people dropping off the baby without informing the other parent. turns out it’s really hard to get the kid back
Omg, that is insane! Imagine coming home from work like
“Honey, I dropped the baby off at the fire station today and the fireman yelled ‘BACK BACK NO TRADE BACK’ when I handed it over, so I’m pretty sure the decision is final. I hope you weren’t too attached to the babe.”
“I dropped Billy off for camp at the fire station. What do you mean thats next week?”
*US states
*US states
Why was that clarification necessary? In what context does “all 50 states” not apply to only the US?
Because there are other countries with states, like Mexico, Brazil, and India. Do you know how many states are in each country? Neither did I, until I looked some up. Mexico has 31 states, btw, and it’s causing my brain to itch with its odd number instead of even. There are no other countries with 50 states, but I didn’t know prior and now I have useless trivia folded into my melon.
Because there are other countries with states… There are no other countries with 50 states,
Exactly. So, what was the point of the USA clarification?
Because there are other countries with states, like Mexico, Brazil, and India. Do you know how many states are in each country? Neither did I, until I looked some up. Mexico has 31 states, btw, and it’s causing my brain to itch with its odd number instead of even. There are no other countries with 50 states, but I didn’t know prior and now I have useless trivia folded into my melon.
What other country has 50 states?
I don’t know
none, but people don’t tend to know that
none, but people don’t tend to know that
So why did the poster I responded to specify US states? They obviously already knew which country the 50 referred to.
So if an article refered to ‘in the 36 states’ would you what country theyre talking about off the top of your head?
answer
Nigeria is the only country with exactly 36 states
There are plenty of complains of the web being US-centric, that i think its perfectly fair to state, and not expect everyone from every country to know how many states, just because its America.
I know! Nigeria!
Nigeria, obviously
Okay, but if your country doesn’t have 50 states exactly, then you know it doesn’t apply to your country and can skip this.
You understood it anyway
What about a 956 month old toddler?
They probably wont fit through the slot.
I think at that age, you just send them through the front door and call them a volunteer.
I’d be completely comfortable with doing whatever is necessary to make him fit through the slot, except for augmenting the slot in any way.
I’m sure as soon as that toddler goes into a fire, the orange will just disappear into the orange, and that will be that.
At least, one can hope.
Couldn’t hurt to try… sounds very old tho TBH. Have you tried a retirement home?
That’s functionally what the US congress is … so yes?
We keep hoping, but he keeps throwing press conferences.
C’mon! I’ll be good now! I promise!
All 50 states of what?
The US is simply where the highest number of anglophones reside. You’d have to sum up the next three nations to get more English speakers than the US (according to worldatlas.com).
Assuming an English speaker on the internet is American is still rude, but not exactly a bad guess - and hardly chauvinism imo
The US is simply where the highest number of highly outspoken anglophones reside.
There, fixed
looks at the biggest crowd in the lineup
Yes, that’s a safe enough inference.
Anglophone is an incorrect metric.
There are more non native English speakers than native English speakers.
On English speaking websites and communities there is no difference between those two as long as the website or community is not specifically for that purpose.
Most people on Lemmy do not live in the US.
Again, and I’ve tried to be very clear about this, I’m not saying they’re correct. We agree that it’s a mistake. I’m explaining how it is an easy mistake to make.
This is a frustrating conversation.
This is a frustrating conversation.
I feel this, deep in my bones, upon reading it.
For a while, I was trying to start all my comments with things like 'to add… ’ or, ‘just to clarify…’ if I was agreeing but context pr more info or whatever
etc since it seems like the default is to assume any response to a comment is conflict / disagreement.
May be time to bring that back
Some people are just influenced by the evil of Giygas, always on the attack. It’s not my job to hit them with a frying pan.
Matter
It’s clear if you click the link - the article will tell you if your inference skills fail you!
Uh, the 50 states of our country? Surely you learned about them in elementary school.
Yeah this directly came out of people abandoning babies in all sorts of place. Some places have these nest type of boxes all padded and temperature controlled where people can leave babies. This is the type of good thing I could see today republicans rallying to stop.
Before fire stations, churches and monasteries did the same thing. And like how some fire stations have a dedicated baby drop box, the churches and monasteries sometimes did, too.
now that is wild.
Most fire stations in the US have at least one person trained as a paramedic/EMT and in many places all of them have at least some medical training. Because in a lot of places fire trucks arrive, there’s people who need immediate medical help.
So they have the basic skills to keep a newborn baby alive until they can get it to a hospital. And if it’s older and healthy, they can just play with it and feed it and clean it as needed until Child Services arrives or it grows up and joins the crew.
or it grows up and joins the crew.
😳
Well, where did you think new firefighters come from?
Fascinatingly the fire is an important part of their reproductive cycle. When a firefighter dies in combat, the heat makes their body spread seeds far and wide. After roughly a year, a new crop will be growing from the ashes.
The larger older firefighters split into two new younger firefighters.
You can drop your baby off a fire station if you’ve got the time.
*You don’t get it back
Baby hatches in the United States are generally called “newborn safety devices” or “newborn safety incubators.” The first known installation of baby hatches in the United States was in Arizona in approximately 2001. Known as “drawers,” the devices were installed primarily in Maricopa County, where six drawers exist at local hospitals as of May 2023. Beginning in 2016, the Indiana-based nonprofit corporation Safe Haven Baby Boxes began installing its own branded “Safe Haven Baby Boxes” in locations throughout Indiana, the first in 2016. As of April 2023, there were 153 baby hatches installed and in use in eleven states, primarily Indiana, which has nearly 100 hatches in operation. Other states with baby hatches include Ohio, Arkansas, New Mexico, Kentucky, and Florida. As of May 2023, eight additional states have enacted laws authorizing installation of baby hatches, though none have been installed.
This article is just wow!
Do they put holes in the drawers for air?
Imagine trying to drop off your baby but the fucking drawer is full.
Yeah my mom always brought that up when I got in trouble
Yeah, but when I drop a teenager off at the fire station, they just bring her back home and tell me I can’t do that because it’s considered “child abandonment.”
Shoulda been in Nebraska smh
I thought you had to fill out a form or identify yourself or they’d do DNA on the baby to identify you. But this says parents can remain nameless. I’m not sure what that entails.
Literally no questions asked. A lot of fire stations even have special temperature-controlled compartments with alarms connected so that people can drop their baby off without even being seen.
Yeah from what I understand you can pull up, say the magic words, give no documentation of any type, then leave without the baby
this is important to prevent the issue of mothers leaving their babies in the dumpster instead. it’s sad they grow up an orphan, but better then the alternative by a mile.
Really? I mean, I wouldn’t just leave a baby in a dumpster. I’d wang it against the side a dozen times first. That’s 10+2 for the metrics out there!
That’s why you can drop them at the FD, so nobody does that.
What the fuck bro
Bong! Bong! Bong!
That seems like it would open up a whole can of worms when, a decade later, your kid should be starting school. They ask you where he is and you have no documentation of what happened to him. Don’t they start asking serious legal questions about your “missing” kid, and accusing you of foul play?
