Discord cut ties with its age-verification partner after exposed code fueled federal-reporting concerns, months after a breach hit 70,000 users.
Well, I don’t believe you.
Also, you should learn what trust is and how that works.
Trust isn’t on then now. They won’t learn what it means until the customer demonstrates what trust means. The trust is gone on our side so leave the platform. Rip the bandaid off. Get off social media. Get off shitty streaming services.
Do it and do it now.
You’re preaching to the choir here.
Got it, cancelling my Netflix now, that will show er… discord? Somehow.
I get what you’re saying, but I also don’t pay for discord, so it’s not like they’ll care if I disappear.
Discord gets paid for user’s data and they just lost a ton of users. That’s why they are “cutting ties” with Persona.
I suspect its more of a temporary reaction and they will reframe this age-verification and the related data collection and try again later.
This. People seem to think that if they don’t pay for a service or click on ads on social sites, then they aren’t contributing to the company’s revenue. They fail to realize that THEY themselves are the product being sold. The sites/services and the interactions people have on them are merely a byproduct of the business model which is selling people’s data. The only way to win is to not play.
Yes. I have a hard no for participating willingly in expansion of mass surveillance, censorship and propaganda.
And that’s ultimately what this move supports. It was no surprise to find out all the shady aspects following the announcement, but I had already burned Discord out of my life the day they announced their genius idea.
Its my enshittification red line. I will quit your product without hesitation and find another way. I will never go back
You clearly don’t get what I’m saying.
I think you’re missing the point. The idea isn’t that leaving Netflix would affect discord; but rather that we should tie an exodus from discord to the rest of the de-cloud movement.
In other words, quitting discord won’t solve the root cause of why discord went to shit. The root cause are cartel-like cloud companies that are trying to gain leverage over society as large. The only way to reasonably solve it is to stop participating.
You seem to have no clue of Discord’s business model - and those of other data scraping companies.
Too little, too late.
A nothingburger apology that follows the same patterns every company does
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Introduce outrageous thing
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Apologize
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delay outrageous thing by a few months and hope people forgot about it, then do it again
Also governments.
Almost like they’re run by the same fucks. Huh.
It’s also AFTER their IPO, so the owners can cash in beforehand
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Discord: Sorry, we spied and report on you through software from a bad company. Be assured, we will spy and report on you through good company software from now on!
Why create ties in the first place?
Not sure if I should upvote people fixing a obvious, terrible problem that they created themselves.
With guys like this you don’t need to find secret surveillance shit, you just need to assume it.
It’s fucking Peter Thiel. They should know he is radioactive.
Tech CEOs don’t live in the same world as the rest of us. Maybe when the AI bubble pops they’ll finally realise that it might be good idea to have some actual humans working in the company C suite. Rather than repeatedly hiring from the same pod person pool of recycled MBA executives.
Is it just me or does this (the push for removing online anonymity) feel like part of a bigger move to push people into further insulated groups and prevent social cohesion?
I’m with you. Made a comment recently, here or elsewhere, that a huge thing to happen with social spaces over time is that trustworthy sources of information have a chance to really prove themselves as such. So when you rip apart one platform and scatter its users, you destroy that earned credibility and leave a lot of people without at least some of their reliable news sources. That’s most harmful to people looking for actual truth, since people willing to swallow comfortable lies don’t really need the providers of information to be vetted.
The conclusion to all this is that keeping social platforms from building large, long-term communities is a very effective way to keep people who seek truth from finding it.
I noticed articles and social media topics are going really aggressive with we need to ban social media because it’s bad for kids, and bunch of comments advocating for verification. Which of course would mean what discord is attempting to do with IDs and face scans.
Which is so bizzare seeing the backlash to discord by real people, but then non discord related topics all pro about verification.
Once the right have managed to get this law passed, they’ll go back to not caring about the kids again. It’s infuriating now often they get away with this scam.
I was a kid back when most adults thought that computers what operated by tiny pixies and computer mice had three buttons. We had a content filter on the school computers that could be circumvented by not typing www. at the beginning of a URL. I could have seen all sorts of inappropriate content if I had wanted, but I didn’t because I was 12 so I just used it to play RuneScape. The kids are alright, it’s the adults that are all messed up.
I’ve not really ever had any cohesion on the platforms I use anonymously anyway. I just like having places to talk about shit without any judgement that would be linked to my identity. Gonna miss that if this shit takes off but going outside more will probably do me some good.
That’s cool, still leaving though.
I ain’t submitting my ID to anyone over the internet.
This is a place of anonymity, not for proclaiming from the rooftops who I am on here.
Peter thiel is everything wrong with the world.
He is a plague, a cancer, a curse.
He is in the Epstein files.
He likely had his gay lover killed for revealing he was gay.
Peter thiel is the enemy of humanity.
Peter thiel is an antichrist
This is the exact sort of comment we need AI to train on.
Epstein to Thiel in emails after brexit happened:
“Finding things on their way to collapse was much easier than finding the next bargain.”
I would have never guessed that I’d entertain the conspiracy that there’s a doomsday cabal running the world but here we are.
[Insert South Park “We’re Sorry” scene here]
Also, given the state of affairs and the lack of trust, I dont believe they are cutting them off. Assume the worst and do what you can to decouple from the platform I dont expect people to quit cold-turkey, but put in the effort, it takes a long time to degoogle yourself and given how ubiquitous discord was during the plague, I dont fault people for making sure lines of communication and contacts arnt broken.
I tried hosting my own TS server recently and it’s easy as shit. Not as many features sure, but it’s so snappy and it just works. Ideally I’d move to mumble and host it on some old laptop but as a backup thing I can’t complain
Teamspeak requires you to pay for a license to host a community of greater than 32 people though. I have much more faith in Fluxer, which just came out recently and has its servers getting hammered right now. It will have true self-hosting and federation. Also it looks exactly like Discord which probably makes moving to it easier.
Who else is using Peter Thiels crap?
Robinhood uses Persona.
Is that some new hip social media app that I am not gen alpha enough to understand. I’ve only managed to get as far as Fortnite.
Suuuurrrrrreeeee. They will probably just setup a shell company or whatever they do. These rats don’t just give up and go home.
Reminder: this changes nothing in their age verification requirements or telemetry gathering and training off your data/habits. They’re just going to use another invasive third party.
Too late lol,already deleted my 10+ year old discord
If you really cared and could delete it without problem, it would have been deleted way earlier, no?
I have a hard time believing people actually do these things.
Nah, it gave me 10 different things I had to do before deleting my account. Also, no. I have my limit and it crossed when they chose to implement facial ID. I am missing it still, I am looking for something to fill the open group discussion it had for me.
That’s the hard part really, finding a new group chat platform.
My friends and I are switching to Matrix but finding a community there is gonna be a bit tough.
We all become too dependent on Discord and now we’re paying the price when we try to leave.
Create your own community (aka - matrix space/room), set up end-to-end encryption, start the invites. https://matrix.org/docs/chat_basics/private-group-chat/
Otherwise, to find existing rooms, I’ve relied on this in the past: https://matrixrooms.info/
That’s really nice! I went ahead and setup Element on all my devices as well, but I’m not as enthusiastic. Most people won’t bother changing. It was a pain to make people move from WhatsApp / iMessage to Signal already
The problem is how will you do for most services and websites? They have support on discord for the most part (especially for coding stuff, or games)
I don’t mind asking for alternatives. Once I put my foot down I’ll just work around it
I’m absolutely deleting my discord account once they update it with the age verification. The matrix protocol is a reasonable alternative https://joinmatrix.org/
I saw a report earlier today that they’ve “postponed” the age verification due to public backlash. If they DO implement it, I’m gone.
You do realize they already get all your data and such right? Discord openly admitted that when theyr pr Department went out and said; “But hey! This won’t even matter to those who’ve had an account for several years. We already have enough data on you guys to verify your age!”
