Never understood people who couldn’t put the shopping carts in the cart return when they are done.
I hurt my knee a few years back, not going to return it if it’s too far away. There’s a good reason sometimes, it’s not a 100% judge of character.
If you can push it around the shop full of things, you can put it back while empty.
This is such hot garbage. Like I’m sorry but people stare and laugh when I bring my wheelchair to the store but then stand to reach a shelf. I’ve so often barely finished shopping out of exhaustion
Have to take a break after entering the store. Have to take a break halfway through. Have to take a break before check out. Have to take a break before parking lot. Take a longer break recouping in the car because groceries are fucking heavy with a spinal fracture.
Just because someone CAN do a given task doesn’t mean they can do it to the ability level of everyone else. Nor can they do it without longterm consequences, yes I can walk a few blocks, but I’ll be unable to move at all the next three days.
If someone says they can’t do something because of physical limitations, leave them the fuck alone about it and accept people struggle in unseen ways.
I sincerely hope you never dislocate your knee and still have to go shopping.
You know I actually have dislocated my knee twice. Still have never done that though.
To clarify, you were doing the shopping yourself? With the dislocated knee? Because that’s literally what they are saying happened. Not that they dislocated it once and then never returned the carts again. They say clearly below that they are fully mobile and return the carts now. So do you really want to stand by what you’re saying?
Of course. What else could I mean?
I said for years that every second date should be to a grocery store. The first date can be as fancy and choreographed as the couple wants, but the second date needs to be to the grocery store.
You can learn just about everything you need to learn about a person from watching them at a grocery store. From how they chose a parking spot, to how they talk to employees, to how they budget, to how they prepare a list, to how healthy they eat, to how they check out, to if they return the shopping cart.
Heh. My first date with my husband ended up at a pizzeria chain. He pulled out a gift card (he won at karaoke). Believe it or not, despite Weird Al asserting that pulling out a coupon book when on a date is tacky, I actually admired it. We’ve been together 14 years, and this year is our tenth wedding anniversary. 😊 Turns out we had a whole lot more in common.
My wife and I use coupon books almost every time we eat out, and we’ve been together going on 5 years.
Change your mind on a product. Do they put it back where it belongs or throw it on the nearest clearly wrong shelf?
Or, is the person a shopper at all? Do they act like they’ve never been to a grocery store in their lives?
That’s useful information.
Or do they compulsively steal? And if so, did they remember what my favourite chocolate bar is?
For those that may have somehow missed it…
There is no such thing as a good person , we are both good and evil…given perspective.
The line between good and evil cuts through the heart of each of us.
Nah. “Don’t cause unnecessary harm”, job done, you’re a good person now.
Well now we have to discuss what harm we consider “necessary”, and that’s where things get pretty tricky.
Anything where the goal is objectively to help the other person. Pain caused by the dentist, for instance. That’s technically harm, but it’s necessary, and it’s objectively helping the person being subjected to pain.
Anything ideology-related (like conversion camps) is unnecessary harm, because ideology (or morality, for that matter) is subjective.
Locking someone in prison is necessary harm - you’re protecting other people from the harm caused by the person locked up, and that’s an objective fact.
Killing someone in a defensive war is necessary harm - you’re the one being invaded, you can either defend yourself or get killed.
To me, it’s all fairly simple.
You’re following the same train of thought that justifies a lot of the rich futurists’ actions. It’s objectively better to help 20 million people down the line even if it costs 1 million lives today, right? I mean, net 19 million. To me, that’s simple.
No, because rich futurists base their actions solely on the belief in a subjective theory. There are many ways to achieve what they’re after, and many of those ways do not require anyone’s hurt.
The subjective theory that there will be a future? Or their subjective theory on what to do about it, which you are pitting against your own subjective theory on what to do about it? What is objective about your claim that there are many ways to help as many people as possible that don’t involve any hardships?
Extremely specific contrary case (I always put my cart back, it’s fun when they accordion together), but my grandma appreciates the carts near the handicap spots because then she doesn’t have to get out her walker.
Haha, the authority figures in this movie are fascists. And that famously goes right over the heads of ding dongs.
I mean the director explicitly made it to “seduce” people to fascism so the ding dongs that fell for it stand for nothing and would be the idiots that would fall for fascism.
It’s a good litmus test.
Also because they had made a completely other film called Bug Hunt at Outpost 7.
They realised that it was going to be a complete flop so they got the rights to Heinlein’s worst book (and in the lead for worst scifi of all time) and gave it to Verhoeven to mangle onto the already shot Bug Hunt at Outpost 7.
Even Verhoeven agreed with me giving up on reading the book half way through it because it was so fucking awful. Both from a glorifying the fuck out of the fascists and because it was singularly one of the worst written books of all time whilst being completely and utterly self-serving.
Heinlein had big daddy issues and they come flooding through the book in a huge way. Notwithstanding the ridiculously broken plot about how his Filipino dad kicks Johnny out because he joined the military, before getting officer training (basically coz everyone dies and his the bottom of the barrel) before his home city of Manila is destroyed, but not before his dad joins and ends up a sergeant in Johnny’s platoon, begging his sons forgiveness.
If you know Filipinos this is the absolutely last thing a Filipino father would ever do. They would walk on glass, render their limbs from their body before ever admitting, to their sons no less, any fault.
Fuck I hated that book like I’ve hated no book. The never ending slaughter, the killing of civilians (albeit aliens), the absolutely shit prose and dialogue, the boring as fuck plot. The absolute hard on for fascism. The pages and pages dedicated to shitting on civilians and sucking off the military. I have read hundreds of, probably thousands of scifi novels, shit I’ve read phone books that were more interesting then starship troopers.
I cannot believe that Heinlein wrote the book as some sort of dystopian allegory.
Verhoeven subverted the subtext and showed how insane a fascist government would be in the case of interstellar war.
The book is heavier on the difference between a citizen and a civilian based on the teacher razacks class with emphasis on the burocracey, training, and waste of money of the war machine.
Heinlein wanted to show how war can take over a civilization. Is it dry? Sure I agree with that. Did verhoeven give up on the novel. Yes I read that, he combined elements of the bug hunt at out post 7 with the characters and themes of the book.
It’s a mesh, I like verhoevens movie. Just because it’s also alot like robocop
Where I live there are spots in the parking lot to leave the shopping cart in order to minimize on foot traffic. It’s better to be safe than virtue signaling.
and yet the test still applies, because given that ease, people still do not return their carts. and so the judgement becomes more stark, where the act of good becomes so easy, the benefit of the doubt all but vanishes
My first job at 15.5yo was the grocery store. I bagged and got carts for work when bagging could be plastic (newer), paper (common), or a combo of both (old people, usually). If you don’t return your cart, fuck you! Now I live a few blocks from the same grocery store and return that shit to the inside of the store, grabbing spares sometimes if they’re just sitting around in the way. It used to surprise me when someone didn’t return it, then the last couple decades happened and it makes more sense. There are just some people who want to be a part of society and others who want to benefit from it while not contributing to it.
If you don’t return your cart, fuck you!
It seems there’s a certain personality type the managers of stores prefer working out there in the parking lot.
I’ll always grab two from the corral if there are two of the same size. It’s not much harder than bringing one.
Anything to help out our fellow laborers. What goes around will eventually come around for those of us who stick together! Sooner or later I hope we can build a solid coalition of laborers to push back against the robber-Barron’s (spelling?) destroying our futures’ for profit.
Holy shit these are some good edibles! I rest my case, your honor.
Sir, this i sa Wendy’s, or was a Wendy’s… until they shut it down… never mind, it’s s dispensery now… you’re in the right place.
Yeah, when I walk into the store, I grab them from the handicap spots. It’s the only place where I say “Okay, you get a pass,” when I see carts left, and so I bring em back to the store.
You give people a pass for ditching carts in the handicapped spaces?
Or a handicap person leaving it there. I don’t care I put it back but if people don’t who cares. Give the cart person something to do.
Trust me when I say, they don’t need an unnecessary amount of work to do. They already get the shit end of the stick by bagging, getting carts, helping patrons, and anything else no one wants to do, but they’re usually only in that rough of a spot because management refuses to hire additional baggers to help. The more we can do to help them, the less that’s on their plate.
If you got a legit reason to not return your cart, then no problem. But if you can return it to a carroll (spelling?), you should!
I honestly couldn’t car less about shopping carts. I want people to pick up their dog’s shit for fuck sake
All right, I’ll just drop off my shopping cart in front of your place, kick it over, and pick up my dog’s poop.
Deal?
Yeah, carts don’t smell and most have a coin so…
Yeah but you cannot eat a cart.
I don’t do it because I don’t want to and they can pay someone to come get it. Why does everyone defend companies? Just hire someone to go get the carts all day. Hire 2, 3 or 4 people.
I worked at a supermarket and loved going outside to get the carts.
If I go into a grocery store and take a massive shit in the middle of the floor, someone will be paid to clean it up. I don’t think someone being paid is a good measure for human decency.
Neither is putting a cart away. You really shouldn’t take a shit on the floor.
Why should I have to throw my garbage in designated garbage bins? They can just hire someone to go pick up trash in the ditches. Why does everyone defend the government? Just hire someone to go clean the side of the road all day long. Hire 2, 3 or 40000 people
I worked at garbage disposal and loved going outside and pick up the trash people threw from their cars.
I agree.
And BTW, in the US for example (and increasingly more countries), the designated bins no longer go different places. They all end up in the same landfill. We need to stop producing so much trash or make the companies who make all the plastic pay to dispose of the products at the end of their lives.
So therefore, you think it’s better for people to just chuck their trash wherever they go? Milk-cart, straight out the kitchen window. Pet bottle, right out the car window. Candy wrapper, just toss it on the ground.
You really don’t need to mention the US as your example of choice. We know you’re American. We can tell.
I didn’t say that. I said none of that. I just don’t see how a company can/should pass on their responsibility to the consumer. If the company provides trash they should be responsible to clean it up. If they provide carts, they should also clean it up. Stop taking responsibility for them.
I’m American, I recycle if I can, i carry my trash until I find a bin, hell I pick up other’s trash at the beach and in parks. But a company parking lot is not my responsibility. Let them clean up their mess. Stop being such a cuck.
They can just hire someone to go pick up trash in the ditches. Why does everyone defend the government? Just hire someone to go clean the side of the road all day long.
To which you replied
I agree
So you literally just said you agree that we shouldn’t throw garbage in bins, and just have paid people go pick it up for us wherever we throw it.
You’re not standing up to the grocery store by leaving your cart where-ever you please in the lot. You’re fucking up for everyone else, people’s cars get hit when said cart sooner or later is picked up by the wind and roll away. Carts lying around blocking the passages in the lot.
But you expect other people to go and pick up the mess you made. Like I said. You don’t have to say you’re American. We can tell.
I agree they should hire people to pick up trash from the ditches. I never said it was okay to dump trash in the ditches. Learn to read.
People’s cars get hit, and the grocery store should be liable. It’s their parking lot, their cart, their responsibility; hell, have someone walk the groceries to everyone’s cars.
I don’t make a mess; I leave the company’s cart where they can go get it away from cars.
The real question is how did they get everyone to argue with each other about this cart nonsense when it should have always been the company’s responsibility?
