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Early 2000s entertainment too. A good portion of the edgy jokes could be considered funny because they were made on the assumption that “We can laugh about this, because we all know racism and sexism is bad, right?”.
And then 2015ish happened and it became obvious that a lot of people weren’t laughing AT the -isms but rather WITH.
EDIT: Which slur did Ross use, BTW? I haven’t watched that show in eons, and I don’t remember any.
Round of applause to Deep Space 9 for holding up after all these years, half that station was bi at the very least.
haven’t seen friends but as someone familiar with the zeitgeist it’s almost certainly “retarded”
which was also all over adult swim at the time and is recently having its renaissance
I’ve noticed that lately. It went from being everywhere to nowhere and now it’s creeping back up. I’ll be honest here, I miss the word but if it’s hurting that many people who haven’t done anything then you’re a fucking piece of shit if you use it.
I was rooting for the “gay” renaissance where people talked about how gay everything was but changed it to mean awesome instead of shitty.
Yeah that this is just how millennials talked in high school and we’re entering into that “old person stops caring” phase of life about now?
We’re not that old yet ffs.
There are none of us in our 20s anymore.
Last time I checked old didn’t cover 30s+ even 50+ is still middle aged.
Who’ve you checked with? Boomers or Zoomers?
ok, boomer
I’m gonna say something bold:
Surprisingly not a problem for some shows, good example is Simpson golden age.
There is a gay episode but it’s mostly about Homer overreacting.
A lot of the satire of Simpson is trying to be functional in a dysfunctional system, which has aged like the greatest wine that frank grimes can’t afford.
I watched Cheers a while back and was surprised at how well it’d aged. Sitcoms are a second-monitor show for me, so it’s possible I missed something, but overall no episodes gave me the Ick too badly.
Sorry Mr. Burns, but I don’t go in for these backdoor shenanigans. Sure, I’m flattered - maybe even a little curious… but the answer is no!
It was the best of times; it was the ~ B L U R S T ~ O F ~ T I M E S ~
I heard Frank Grimes didn’t even go to space
The one that still gets me, and mostly because in this day and age of 2026 it still doesn’t get as much homophobic backlash as I feel it clearly deserves is the pejorative: cocksucker.
In my anecdotal experience, 99.55% of the time, it’s leveraged against men and used as a homophobic slur.
But even so, is sucking cock really that terrible of a thing to do? The vast majority of people with a cock enjoy the service. We literally celebrate the people who do it well for us personally, in most cases.
Why is it used as a slur?
Anyway, I’m off to suck some cock, see ya’ll later.
George Carlin (who is idolized and rightly so, mostly) had a line in one of his standup specials where he said “you show me a tropical fruit and I’ll show you a cocksucker from Guatemala”. Homophobia was just so normalized back then (this was the ‘80s). Eddie Murphy had a whole routine (which he has since apologized for, to his credit) imagining Mr. T as a homosexual ("Hey boy you lookin’ mighty cute in them jeans!"). Robin Williams (also idolized here) routinely acted gay for the humor value of it (such as it was).
Motherfucker - Includes (Most) dads of 2 or more kids.
Why two or more?
Do you think people with only one child no longer have sex?
I’m surprised how many people seem offended by this comic. I found it pretty relatable. That doesn’t mean I “don’t understand context”, or think the writers were bad people, or that the shows aren’t worth watching. It just means I find it personally unpleasant to find these jokes in a work I’m otherwise enjoying.
When kids study older literature and media in school, generally when there’s a slur or racist reference or joke, the teacher will stop and explain the context and get the kids to reflect on it and why it’s probably not acceptable today. Even though I understand this and know it going in, I’m still kind of doing an abridged version of that in my head when something like this comes up in a show – I’ve been following along, laughing with the writers, and then suddenly I’m backing up and distancing myself from one joke or idea. It’s jarring, it pulls me out of the show, and it’s just not fun.
In some cases it also comes across as incredibly lazy and unoriginal. So many sitcoms from that era have “the trans episode”, “the gay episode”, “the lecherous character” – and they all make the same unfunny jokes, and it’s a reminder than a lot of these shows, even in their time, were just not that creative. Plenty of modern shows have the same problem, but they don’t draw attention to it by having large classes of “stock jokes” that simply do not land today.
Indiana Jones is a tough watch. Had to turn it off after 30 minutes or so
Edit: Since a lot of people misunderstand me here.
This is Indiana Jones, something I watch purely for entertainment, its not very entertaining to watch him berate and belittle a overly hysterical depiction of a woman for a full length movie. It’s not as if this is the absolute pinnacle of human culture, its a movie series made for entertainment. It still was an important part of the human experience for many. If my goal is to get a glimpse into how culture was earlier, then sure, but that was not my goal when I watched Indiana Jones.
I loved Indiana Jones as a child, and wanted to introduce it to my wife as ENTERTAINMENT, not as an important cultural event that forever changed human culture.
Sexism, homophobia, transphobia and racism was normal in older movies, and one should not dismiss old culture based solely on that. Many films are too great to pass up, Indiana Jones is not what I would prioritize to watch despite these issues.
Hopefully your don’t take that approach to everything cause being unable to mentally get over the fact people were different at different points in history. Sure makes it damn well near impossible to be well read or learned.
You basically are willfully ignorant and blind to history. If you just can’t read or watch anything that doesn’t perfectly match modern sensibilities.
The sheer glut of fiction that is so unbelievably foundational to modern literature that is beyond racist and sexist. Is uncountable.
Of course not. This is Indiana Jones, something I watch purely for entertainment, its not very entertaining to watch him berate and belittle a overly hysterical depiction of a woman for a full length movie. It’s not as if this is the pinnacle of human culture, its a movie series made for entertainment. If my goal is to get a glimpse into how culture was earlier, then sure, but that is not my goal when I watch Indiana Jones.
It’s not even a good movie to begin with, no need to give it a pass on the sexism and other issues
I wish I could get people to care about health care and wages as much as they care about mean words. So many seemingly don’t mind being robbed blind as long as our ruling parties using the correct terminology.
What, and give up purity testing? That would eliminate 90% of our recreational outrage and give us time and energy to actually do something. Can’t have that.
I had a hardcover book sitting on my shelf. Got it at a yard sale a while back. “The 13 Crimes of Science Fiction,” it was published in 1979 and most of the stories are much older.
The level of racism was pretty amazing. One story referred to a mugger as a ‘black buck’ Another was set centuries in the future and had an anthropologist keeping some ‘primitive’ people in high tech chains and cages.
Agatha Christie is probably one of the most popular writers of the 20th Century, and one of her classics is now published under the title “And Then, There Were None.”
If you’ve ever seen a movie, play, or game where a group of people are invited to a house only to be killed off one by one, you’ve seen something influenced by “And Then, There Were None”.
Generally the victims are symbolized by figurines on the mantelpiece which get gradually destroyed one by one as the murders progress, eventually leaving “none”.
The previously published title was the incredibly culturally insensitive “Ten Little Indians”, and the figurines were just that.
The original published title, in the UK, in 1939 - an era when we DID IN FACT KNOW BETTER was “Ten Little removeds”.
They did not change the title in the UK until 1985(!)
Is quoting Wikipedia now banned on Lemmy? I was under impression arsehole censoring mods here were mostly focused on removing mentions of Israeli genocide of Palestinians.
It’s automated. Instances can setup a list of words that will automatically get removed. Has nothing to do where it comes from.
Also, jordanlund is a mod himself, so…
“Ten Little removeds”.
so for anyone else confused…
“Content not viewable in your region”?
Now I’m more confused.
There you go. This censorship is getting ridiculous. Next time people born in Fucking, Austria won’t be able to explain where they are from.
Chuds not being able to post the N word for a day — challenge level: impossible.
Like, we all knew what the book was, but it was still SO important for you to post this. It was life or death for you. Not saying slurs physically makes your skin crawl. You cannot help but be a racist sack of shit.
I would personally send you to the gulag.
As an Australian who has never studied Agatha Christie in any context, I literally had no clue what the censored word was. I was, and am, appreciative of the context that was provided by other commenters. Be careful when you make blanket statements like “we all knew what the book was”, because you’ll almost always be confidently incorrect.
10 little subsets of the the human species with really high level of melanin in their skin.
the screenshot is hosted on imgur.com, do you generally have problems with that one? it was just a screenshot of mentioned wiki article.
Got you. Imgur is now completely blocked in the UK after the “Online Safety Act”, “to protect the children”, because maybe one of the pictures hosted on it is some boobs or something?
