I’m not saying this isn’t a sign of something, but Surf and Turf nights are fairly common at overseas bases. Sometimes once a week.
EDIT: Pie is pretty much nightly anywhere with real kitchen.
Okay. And for those of us that haven’t served what does it mean? Fucking gate keepers, man.
Such good food is served to boost morale and mood of soldiers before the battle. In this case, before a new war. To be more precise: before war between the USA and Iran(and Israel as an ally).
@ickplant Putting soldiers in harms way to distract from the epstein files should get the fat fuck the death sentence.
I’ve been saying that cutting USAID and the nearly million deaths that followed in the subsequent months as a direct result of cutting a program that as much as a couple of his planned ballrooms, should get him hanged slowly at the hague.
Out of everything he’s done, this along with rolling back environmental protections will have caused the most harm and suffering to humanity and these are the things getting the least attention.
Imagine having the power to ruin the lives of countless millions of living souls and doing it for no other reason than to prove how “not woke” you are and to add another several cents per share to your donor’s investments.
They’re gonna go kill brown people to get the focus off of the richest ruling elite in the world (including their own commander in chief) trafficking, raping, and murdering children.
And it won’t even work
Remember when DOGE shut down USAID? There’s an epidemiologist from Boston university who’s been making models to estimate the human cost of it, so far they’re showing more than half a million dead children: https://www.impactcounter.com/dashboard?view=table&sort=interval_minutes&order=asc
No one’s paying attention to it. The whole matter has been forgotten, because the whole zone has been so thoroughly flooded.
So exactly what has been keeping the US alive for over a century, yes.
Just like the founding fathers intended.
It actually spiked to 3 on Sunday night lol
All those Iranian citizens who think the U.S. is doing this for them… They’re about to find out the hard way what putting your trust in the U.S. is like, let alone Trump. You would think they’d learn from the last time.
Nobody thinks this. Lemmy users need to stop being racist like this. Iranians are not stupid, these people have agency. They know what a war with the US means, they had two of their neighbors go through it. They know it’s hell, but the thing is that the regime right now is so cartoonishly evil that if a war loosens their grip on power and opens up a real possibility for a new government, then it might just be worth it.
I’m Iraqi. My family lived through the terror of Saddam Hussein. The US invasion was hell. It destabilized the country and a lot of people died. Nobody recalls that time as a good one. Yet, at the same time, you’ll be hard pressed to any Iraqi that wishes the US didn’t depose of that evil regime.
Edit: as short as 4 months ago, the user above was referring to the Israeli genocide of Palestinians as “the Israel-Palestine conflict”. They have posts complaining about leftism on Lemmy, praising the Cybertrucks and Teslas, and edgelording AI. Also, their posting and commenting hours suggest timezones in the continent of America, contrary to their claim of being Iraqi.
The main problem in Iran and the reason why protests broke out last months is simply US + EU sanctions. The Iranian currency imploded over the past months and drove many people to desperation, the current exchange rate is like 1.5mn to 1USD, and this is unequivocally the fault of the US + EU. However bad their regime, US+EU sanctions murder HALF A MILLION PEOPLE YEARLY in the world, the death burden of these sanctions is astronomically higher than anything you can ascribe to the Iranian government. The literal, EXPLICIT POLICY of sanctions is, and I quote official US documents: “to bring about hunger, desperation and overthrow of government”.
Iran could have been a secular socialist democracy as Iranians democratically decided in the previous century under the government of Mosaddeq, but UK+USA conspired to bring the government down and brought back monarchy. The Iranian government is literally the fault of the Anglos. Stop doing atrocity propaganda for the US empire on the fucking verge of an invasion. And there are plenty of Iraqi who wholeheartedly condemn the invasion of Iraq even if it brought down the government of Saddam, because what followed was orders of magnitude worse. An example is Hakim on YouTube.
Edit: as short as 4 months ago
One of the most pathetic things about Reddit is that whenever an argumentative user is incapable of defending their views on their own merits, they spend a embarrassing amount of time digging through someone else’s post history to try to find something attack their character with. It’s just such a lazy and desperate thing to do because it demonstrates a shallow confidence in their own beliefs, and it also shows that they value “winning” an argument through fallacious means rather than having discussion where opinions are exchanged. I see you’re doing your best keeping that chronically online spirit alive here on Lemmy as well.
to the Israeli genocide of Palestinians as “the Israel-Palestine conflict”. They have posts complaining about leftism on Lemmy, praising the Cybertrucks and Teslas, and edgelording AI.
So let me get this straight, you spent god knows how long going back months into my account history, and the best you could do was intentionally misrepresent my 3 of my positions and then complain about a single word that I used 4 months ago? Damn, that’s pathetic.
Also, their posting and commenting hours suggest timezones in the continent of America, contrary to their claim of being Iraqi.
If you kept digging a little longer or maybe tried reading a little deeper, you would’ve find out that I’m an Iraqi who’s family lived during Saddam Hussein, the US invasion, and then we migrated to Syria after an Iranian terrorist militia attacked our neighbor’s at the dead of night. We stayed in Syria for a few years but things started going downhill there too, so we decided to immigrate to the West, and the US was the first country to accept our applications. This is not the gotcha you think it is.
The main problem in Iran and the reason why protests broke out last months is simply US + EU sanctions
I’m not going to waste too much time here because you’re someone who engages in bad faith, but I just want to point out that this narrative is false. Iranians are not protesting just because of the sanctions, they’re protesting government tyranny, corruption, and incompetence. If it really was just the sanction, then explain the 2022 Mahsa Amini protests where the country went into uproar for 2 years after the regime killed a teenage girl for not following their religious dress code or explain their water crises where they’re threatening to evacuate their capital due to regime’s mismanagement or the 2017 hijab law protests. The sanctions don’t magically make the regime more authoritarian and incomptent, they just expose the problems that were already there faster.
However bad their regime, US+EU sanctions murder HALF A MILLION PEOPLE YEARLY in the world, the death burden of these sanctions is astronomically higher than anything you can ascribe to the Iranian government.
You’re going to need to source this. I know for a fact that you either made this up or you’re intentionally misinterpreting some paper that says something very different. If you can’t link the exact source you’re referring to and then show specifically which part said this, I’m going to safely assume that this claim has no substance.
Also, I find it really annoying, how you’re going out of your way to bootlick a regime that is this evil with some low level fallacy like whataboutism. “However bad their regime” my ass, It’s not a competition. Other countries doing other bad things does NOT justify, excuse, or negate the evil things that the Iranian regime has done or is doing. The only reason you would even do something like this is because YOU support the regime. At this point you’re not just criticizing the West, you’re actively defending the regime. You’re directly opposing Iranians who are fighting for their freedom and rights, and you’re doing everything in your power to stand with their oppressors.
The Iranian government is literally the fault of the Anglos.
Everybody acknowledges that the coups of the Democratic government were bad, but guess what? It’s not the 1950s anymore. We live in a completely different reality now, and those events do not justify or excuse the islamic regime’s atrocities against their neighbors or their own people. Like what is even the though process here? “There was a coup 70 years ago that’s bad therefore we should support and let this evil regime slaughter and oppress millions of people”, it’s an asinine position.
what followed was orders of magnitude worse
The US invasion destabilized the country, but the thing that made it worse was this very same Iranian regime. Their terrorist proxy militias are directly responsible for corrupting the new government, keeping the country unstable through violence and fear, causing violence by stoking sectarian tensions, and turbo charging minority oppression that led to the rise of ISIS. Like what the hell are we even talking about here? How the hell is ignorant Westerner going to try and lecture me about my own country?
An example is Hakim on YouTube.
So you’re example is a Marxist youtube grifter who carters to a Western audience? If that’s your source of information on the country then no wonder why you’re out of touch. You need to look things made by Iraqis for Iraqis. Go look up Ahemd Al Basheer. He’s an Iraqi personality who’s followed by millions of Iraqis and he’s commonly called the voice of the Iraqi people. He does a very successful late night styled TV show on youtube and DW called Al Basheer Show. Most of his videos are in Arabic, but he did do a youtube series in English awhile back for an international audience awhile ago, you should go watch that. That should be way more informative than someone like Hakim lmao
Oh no, a MARXIST voice from Iraq who actually lives in the country??? Damn, guess we should totally listen instead to emigrées like you who left the country 20 years ago and have been exposed to 20 years of USA propaganda!
Or should we listen to Ahmed Al Basheer, who streams from literal German state TV (Deutsche Welle)? Surely entirely apolitical and not at all exclusively funding journalists who geopolitically align with them! Not at all media stations endlessly defending the genocide of Palestinians in Israel! The fact that you claim that “the voice of Iraqis” comes from German state TV tells me enough.
Go ahead: if I’ve misrepresented your positions, tell me, is Israel engaging committing genocide against Palestinians? Should the current state of Israel be eliminated and the lands of Palestinians returned to their rightful owners?
I’m an Iraqi. I lived there. The birthplace location on my passport says “Baghdad, Iraq”. My family has literally lived through these events. I have family in both Iraq and Iran. I know what happened to me, my family, and what’s going on in my country, you don’t. The sheer arrogance of you thinking that you could double down on lecturing me about my own lived experiences makes you a living example of the ignorant and chauvinistic westerner stereotype.
Ahemd Al Basheer has 7.5 million subscribers on his youtube channel, and virtually all of those are Iraqis. He is an Iraqi who also lived through all these events who made a show exposing Iraq’s problems to Iraqis in Iraqi Arabic. The only people who tune are Iraqis because other Arabs simply won’t understand all the Iraqi references, jokes, and politics. It would be like Australians tuning in to Canadian political shows, it almost never happens. There’s only like 46 million Iraqis in the world both in Iraq and diaspora. That means 16% of all Iraqis in the world watch this guy, and that’s just going off of subscriber numbers. His channel more than 1.6 BILLION views. He’s not some rando youtuber, he literally is one of the biggest voices in the country.
Compare that to Hakim, who virtually no Iraqi has ever heard of. When Iraqis see the name Hakim, they think of the Egyptian singer, not this guy. He has a small channel of 300k subscribers that is exclusively in English catering to a Western Marxist audience. Meaning that all videos come from an ideological lens, which means he is inherently not objective or in tune with the rest of the country since the overwhelming majority of Iraqis are not Marixst. Regardless, his entire channel is designed to maximize profit from sponsorships, constant merch drops, ads, and begging people to subscribe to his Patreon in every god damn video. It’s literally a grift. Oh also, this guy has a history of saying some vile shit like saying the ethnic cleansing under Stalin was a good thing or that the Soviet invasion of Poland was justified or him denying but also simultaneously praising the genocide that was committed by Saddam Hussein against the Kurds.
Like this is the guy who you’re proudly watching? This is your source of information on the country? If Hakim is where you get your info on Iraq, then you literally have no information hygiene. Let’s take a second and consider the two options here. One is a Marxist grifter who spreads misinformation to appease an English speaking Western audience, the other one is one the most prominent figures in Iraqi culture and politics and his content is made for Iraqis… hmm, I wonder which one gives me better insight on the country.
The fact that you don’t even know who Ahmed Al Basheer even is or what he stand for tells me all I need to know about you. You know NOTHING about this country or this region of the world, yet you speak as if you know more than the people who lived through these events themselves. You don’t understand Iraqi history, you don’t know who the prominent Iraqi figures are, you can’t speak our language, you know nothing about our culture, and you certainly don’t know what we’ve been through. Like it’s one thing to be ignorant, but it’s another when you’re doubling down on it. That’s just Dunning–Kruger effect. If you’re going to continue being a clown then you’ll get treated like one.
You still haven’t said what you think about Israel’s genocide in Palestine though, why are you avoiding that?
I’m obviously against it, but it’s also entirely irrelevant. The fact that you’re so desperately chasing smooth brained “gotchas” just shows how disingenuous you are.
I’m Iranian, living in Iran. He is right.
A very big portion of people think trump or netanyahu’s attack and war will save them from the islamic republic.
When people are angry, hungry, getting killed, hopeless and poor, we can’t expect their brains to work properly.
It’s by design though. US policy has destroyed the Iranian middle class (you know, the exact people who would otherwise do the regime-changing). The whole point is to cause desperation and despair which they can take advantage of. It’s the same method that was used against castles and city-states in the middle ages.
Yes. I think ruling by desperation and despair is the method of new superpowers. Almost all over the world, people are hopeless and depressed and news and politicians keep reinforcing it.
May they suffer in eternal hell for what they are doing
Focus that rage upward.
I have such distain for our military industrial complex and ICE, but I recognize so much of the problem is desperate people taking desperate measures. They decided it’s better to risk your life in a foreign war than it is to be home watching you and your family whither away with no healthcare, education, or money. I don’t agree but I can understand- debt will put anyone in a pressure cooker. Two things can be true at once- being a stoog for American imperialism makes you horrible, but people who are stooges can still be people to show sympathy for when you consider the factors at play.
When the revolution comes, as all revolutions do, it is only when the military allows the people to storm the gates. In my head we don’t need to thank service members as much as say I’m so sorry what this country did to them.
I’m Persian, from Iran. I don’t give a fuck why those yank butchers signed up to go murder my family. They already killed my moms side in Iraq now they’re going to go kill my dad’s side. Fuck them and I hope they burn in hell. I wish they would skip to the part where they shoot themselves drunk and spare my family that remains in Iran.
Iran is a horrifying dictatorship that deserves nothing less to be taken out with force. The only travesty is that American, on our own path of dictatorship and horrifying capitalism is the one who might do it.
We can take care of ourselves. Thinking that you can “take out” a dictatorship is absolute baby brain levels of understanding how the world works. A power vacuum is never filled by something positive and you support creating the conditions to make everything worse. Grow up.
You can eh? Then do it. I’m not so naive to think that uprising without outside intervention always succeed. Historically, outside support is very helpful for successful uprising.
You can’t just take out a dictatorship. And I don’t think that. You need long standing dedicated occupation that builds up the country over decades to have successes like japan.
You have no right to invade and occupy other countries. All you yank fuckers will do is make everything worse and kill a lot of people. Why don’t you stay in your own fucking country and kill yourselves.
Imagine fighting and risking your life in a foreign country on behalf of a pedophile.
People are doing it for money, that is why it is so important to help the poor. When people are poor, they can do whatever a rich guy says
I agree that it’s important to help the poor to make them less susceptible to financial coercion. After all, that is what capitalism does to quantitive measurements of debt, turns it from debt forgiveness to debt peonage. The second part isn’t necessarily true, there are plenty of poor people that don’t do what rich people tell them to, and plenty of rich people who happily do what rich people tell them to do.
I agree that it’s important to help the poor to make them less susceptible to financial coercion. After all, that is what capitalism does to quantitive measurements of debt, turns it from debt forgiveness to debt peonage. The second part isn’t necessarily true, there are plenty of poor people that don’t do what rich people tell them to, and plenty of rich people who happily do what rich people tell them to do.
Approximately 45% of the available combat ready aircraft are in position at various air bases, which include carriers. One does not deploy and concentrate air assets like that unless you want the shit to hit the fan. Wasting billions for nothing.
This is Trump’s MO, I think he was hoping for a lot more coverage from the media on this to drown out the Epstein stuff. I guess he thinks if he does order a strike, it will help take the pedo-heat off him, but it’d be the most foolish decision he’s ever made, Iran are not to be fucked with militarily.
