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    I couldn’t get through Episode one for how horrible it is. I absolutely cant stand that show it’s so just. Dumb in my opinion. It was so bad I wanted to watch something else just to stop it or do anything else.

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        I stopped halfway through Resident Alien just to start over from the beginning to try & clip funny moments, and damn

        I forgot that Alan Tudyk was not a complete hoot in the first episode. Just my take, I think he really found his character’s voice another episode or two in once Harry was more confident in himself around humans.

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    If you think breaking bad is boring, try better call Saul. A complete snooze fest, and chuck is the worst tv character ever too.

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      Really, it’s too slow. The 40 mins episodes could be condensed in 5 minutes shorts.

      I rage quit during an episode where Kim Wexler asked “do you want a cup of tea?” And then proceeded of preparing it in FUCKING REAL TIME!!

      Ok, it’s more cinematic, but usually when they do this they just take a cup prefilled behind the counter and move on, don’t need to show the whole process. Ok, probably it’s intentional, to show the detail how how empty and lonely were the cupboards but…

      So, for me it’s too slow to be watched with full attention but at the same time there are too many important details that are shown “silently” to be watched while doing errands or something else

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        Maybe it’s just me, but they could have had an entire episode where Kim paces around a parking garage, smoking cigarettes and waiting for a phone call and I’d still watch to the end.

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        Maybe?

        Did do you think they just oopsied that scene and just recorded him making tea?

        From several angles?

        Subtext can have layers, you know. But you are not supposed to wonder if they accidentally filmed to much. Those movies are very special

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        To me the odd pace and the cinematography of Vince Gilligan shows are part of the draw.

        Like a lot of his shows feel like they’re meant to convey a peek into the beauty of niche monotony. It can definitely be difficult if not impossible to keep that entertaining while stretching it out over several seasons, but…

        When it’s done right, it kind of disarms you/hooks into your sense of empathy and reels you in (At least that’s what it does for me). It’s more than just a standard attempt to capture slice of life/fly on the wall where you’re watching as part of the audience. You get to momentarily slip into the perspective of a stranger by feeling what they’re feeling.

        For example, the entire unsaid backstory of Kim and Saul scenes in the work parking garage: always feeling a bit out of place among your elite peers at a prestigious law firm. Convinced that no matter how hard you try, or how successful you are, somehow you know and they just know you’re not like them. In part it’s a defense mechanism, but but you’re also not totally wrong.

        Finding the part of your day you look forward to the most are actually moments when you escape from the job you fought so hard to land, and slip away for a quick smoke break (in secret of course). That’s the only part of your day you can finally let your guard down and just breathe/be real with the only other person who really gets it.

        Or, in Mike’s case: finding yourself looking back at the end of your career as a dirty cop with deep sorrow and regret for all the things you did while knowing it was the wrong thing to do. Yet always choosing to take the easy way for your own sake. Then trying to start over new, by picking what feels like the safest most routine job you can find as a parking attendant, essentially trying to break good.

        Even the little peaks into the lives of side characters tend to give little brief glimpses that are unique enough to be interesting, but routine enough to be familiar.

        There’s a throw away scene in the first episode of Pluribus before the aliens begin to take over that stuck with me. It shows a big group of industry scientists pipetting in synchronization while they toil away in a huge lab.

        No dialogue, the characters are all extras, and it’s such a niche scene specific go science, but it also perfectly conveys the kind of hive mind, almost mechanical flow that tends to just take over for all humans when you’re working to achieve a common goal, and also foreshadows the entire plot of the show without a single word.

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      I honestly can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic, but I kind of agree with those statements. I just couldn’t get into breaking bad or better call. Saul and I gave each of them a number of episodes to get there. I think it doesn’t help but I don’t like the characters and that makes me not want to hang around and see what happens.

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        Thats part of what made me keep watching. It’s almost masochistic. Walts character going further into the narcissistic abuse with each season is horrifying to me, but it’s also so well written through that psychological lens that it fascinates me.

        The difference between that and BCS for me was mostly that there was a ton more back story to see how Jimmy’s psychology developed. I had a lot more sympathy for him.

        Both are interesting to me in the sense of how TV shows were starting to pivot away from these more traditional perfect protagonists into complex mixtures of horrible people that I still wanted to root for. But again, masochistic for me, cuz I want to see the good in everyone — and that has come at the cost of understanding when I need to set boundaries and walk away irl. I like to tell myself its like exposure therapy when in reality I need professional therapy 💀

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      Potentially? In my experience people will flame you hard for not liking BB. Usually when people bring it up, if I mention I didn’t care for it, they get irrationally pissed.

      One person even tried to tell me that the reason I didn’t like it was “because you’re young yet”. Like mf I’m in my 30s

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        I felt thing after stopping at season 2 and hearing about it after s4 started. I decided to catch up. I enjoyed it over all, but still felt it was too slow. Out of any “slow burn” character-driven shows show I at least moderately enjoyed it by the end? I’ll forever rue watching all of Mad Men.

        Similarly, I will never go back to finish The Wire, The Americans, or Homeland after this.

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          You should not finish Homeland. I feel like they did not know where to go after the success of the first narrative arc. The Wire is slow but I found it worth it. At least watch the fuck scene.

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      I mean everybody is entitled to their own opinions, and after so many seasons, inevitably a show will have moments that are better and worse.

      However, if you just shit on Vince Gilligan shows in general, what kind of shows do you actually enjoy watching?

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        I don’t shit on Vince Gilligan shows, I just don’t enjoy them (was only even aware of two of them before I just googled him). I don’t think they’re bad shows, they’re just not the type of show I like.

        As far as answering your question as to what I do enjoy watching, I tend to lean heavily into sci-fi, fantasy, or horror genres. Doesn’t matter if it’s live action or anime, if it has a well built world with engaging storytelling, then I’ll binge it.

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    I stopped after the first season, when they repeated the same plot in a row, I just kinda shrugged and moved on.

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      I loved breaking bad when it aired. I’m not sure how much i would like it now. People forget that the whole format was still kind of new back then.

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      Season 3 was when I really got into the show. The problem wasn’t that the first two seasons were slow, they were just really dour. Especially the first season.

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    Jesse is what killed it for me. He was tolerable and even decent in the first season but after that I just started to increasingly loathe him more and more until the point I couldn’t even stomach the idea of watching another episode. I loved everything else about the show too so it’s unfortunate.

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      For me it was Skyler, I know she’s not supposed to be likeable but that doesn’t excuse it for me.

      I hate her character and she makes the show just unpleasant for me.

      I did finish breaking bad though, about it being the best show of all time is not something I agree with. it’s alright

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        I hated Skyler the first time I watched it. The second time through, I felt a lot more sympathy for her character.

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          Nice, she’s been the reason I never attempted a rewatch. Maybe I should give it a try

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        I think Skyler is pretty universally disliked. I thought the kid was annoying too which pretty much undermines the whole premise of the show.

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          I didn’t mind the kid too much, I think it helps the plot because it becomes easier to see that for Walter it’s all about his ego

          His kid also contrasts Jesse who’s basically the child Walter always wanted, witty and smart in ways Walter isn’t.

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      Jesse’s supposed to be a complete dipshit but he has a really good redemption by the end in my opinion

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        That was my problem with the show too.

        Smart person decides to cook meth…

        Step 1: Partner with complete dipshit

        Step 2:

        Step 3: Profit

        It’s not hard to cook meth especially if you have a science background.

        EVERYTHING in the show is there to make cooking meth harder because if it wasn’t hard it would be a completely boring story.

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          The reason Smart Person needed to partner up with Complete Dipshit is because he needed Complete Dipshit’s underground connections to 1) acquire some controlled substances using less than legal methods, and 2) to sell what he’s cooked up. Jesse wasn’t there to help with manufacturing, he was there to help with logistics. Walter couldn’t have done those on his own because not even the best chemistry departments at the bestest universities teach you how to steal precursor drugs or cold call psychotic drug lords for exciting new business opportunities.

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            You’re telling me that it is a requirement to be a Complete Dipshit to have underground connections?

            I get that is how the show sold it and I guess you believed it

            There’s just no way for Walt to become Heizenberg without Complete Dipshit

            Let’s just ignore the fact that the writer planned the Complete Dipshit to die a handful of episodes into the series

            Again, EVERYTHING in the show is designed to make cooking/distributing meth challenging. They had to make Complete Dipshit useful because he “had” to be in the story.

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              Its not a requirement to be a complete dipshit to have underground connections. But the one complete dipshit that Walter knew did have those underground connections, so he probably didn’t think to keep looking for someone else. Walter was a high school science teacher with no friends, how would he have gone about looking for someone to sell meth for him?

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                “The story happened that way so that’s the only way it could have happened”

                Walter was a high school science teacher with no friends, how would he have gone about looking for someone to sell meth for him?

                Once again everything is stacked against Walt. Always another road block. Episode after episode.

                They had to give him a complete dipshit to work with because a semi-competent person he knew would have been a “boring” story.

                Maybe show interest in the DEA and ride around with his brother-in-law to secretly collect intel. Ends up getting a job for the DEA but basically an inside guy.

                Let me go find the drop out high school student I knew and cook meth in an RV. Is definitely not a thing an intelligent person would choose to do. Sure if they are forced to like in the story, but that doesn’t make it right or enjoyable.

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      Same. His character just kept getting more and more annoying the whole time I watched.

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        This is an apt description of how I felt when watching The Acolyte. The fight scenes were cool, but I couldn’t help but feel like basically everyone was acting like an impulsive teen all the time and if they had just been a reasonable adult for basically 2 minutes the whole plot wouldn’t have happened.

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    Hey, look, I’m with you, and to tell you the truth, I didn’t even watched itm

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    Right there with you bud. I stopped after they killed the first drug lord in a wheelchair. I think it was the second season. Man what a boring show.

    I kind of feel the same about Plur1bus, but at least that show is interesting to see very prominent locations completely void of population.

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      Plur1bus can do so much, but they do so little! The whole first season felt very empty to me. Aliens bad, aliens good, aliens bad. There you go, you’re up to speed. I do eagerly await to see if they can escalate it in the second season.
      Neither of the shows bored me, but breaking bad had much better writing.

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    I stoped at one if the ep where walter is with his family and its just depressing silence for a few minutes. Unbearable…

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    I’m still stuck on like episode 7. I know it gets good. And it isn’t bad, is just there. One day I’ll get back to it. One day.

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      First season could be a bit rough at points as the cast finds their characters and the plot tries to stick to every man out of his element. That goes away around season 2.

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      I gave up at the payment screen during account creation. Netflix must be high on more than just prices.

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    I gave up on this show the day Vince Gilligan was born. I knew from that day forward he was destined to be a terrible screenwriter. I vowed to never watch anything he would create.

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      Bet you can’t even write a single paragraph on why you think he sucks if you have to put in something objective.

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        Im absolutely shitposting. To be clear.

        I’ve watched Breaking Bad in it’s entirety over a dozen times, BCS at least 4 times, El Camino twice. Finished Pluribus already. The only thing I haven’t really got into fanatically is X-files, but I don’t dislike it.

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          Oh. Sorry. I’m having a bad day and there’s always stupid ppl online, but I should’ve prolly caught that, haha. My b, bredda