What the title says. Well intentioned, often other “neurodivergent” people look at your life, your autism, and say: “you should mask harder.”

For example, I accidentally said something that offended a friend. Won’t go into detail, but it was me unintentionally coming off as arrogant, not something bad like a slur or hate speech.

I asked for advice (elsewhere) and the advice was universally, “you see, NT avoid this topic at all costs. Going forwards, know it is best to avoid this topic.”

But isn’t this just saying “mask harder and be more palatable for everyone else”?

Every piece of “autism advice” I see even in “neurodivergent friendly” communities is basically “how to be less autistic.”

  • Jul (they/she)@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    7·
    17 hours ago

    Yep, that’s why I only choose to hang out with other neurodivergent people or people who are willing to treat ND people’s needs as at least as important as their more toxic social norms.

    Public interactions you have to conform to survive, but personal connections are your choice.

          • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineEnglish
            41·
            11 hours ago

            Help me understand.

            What is not toxic to you:

            • A person has a disability which makes task x difficult to perform.
            • Everyone agrees that this person has this disability and that this disability makes it hard to perform task x
            • If they try to perform task x they may not understand they are doing it incorrectly, again because of the disability that everyone agrees is real and this person has.
            • no one is expected to create an environment where task x is made easier
            • when this person fails at task x, it is treated as a moral failing
            • inability to perform task x puts access to fundamental needs at risk

            What is toxic:

            • being told that you do not understand the experience that someone is trying to express

            Is this accurate?

      • eksb@programming.devEnglish
        51·
        12 hours ago

        The problem is that the rules for being “polite” and “tactful” are seemingly arbitrary and impossible to understand.

        I know there are facial expressions you are supposed to make in certain situations to make your words work as polite, but I cannot consistently figure out how to do it.

        • ChexMax@lemmy.world
          2·
          4 hours ago

          I’m sure this is an inappropriate question, but out of curiosity, are you a man or a woman?

          I’m just always curious with this because women are typically diagnosed later or not at all because women figure out masking earlier and better.

          I wonder if it’s purely self preservation on the part of women or if women are more explicit in social rules with one another?

          • eksb@programming.devEnglish
            1·
            2 hours ago

            I am a man.

            I think I might be agender though. I find gender roles as confusing and arbitrary as all the other social rules.

          • RebekahWSD@lemmy.world
            1·
            2 hours ago

            As an autistic woman, it’s been self preservation for me. Other non autistic women have not been explicit about the rules. Quite the opposite lol.