YouTube viewers will soon have to sit through even longer ads, with Google rolling out new 30-second unskippable spots on a popular app.
The article about crappy ads wants me to turn off my ad blocker, lol
It’s so fucking funny though. I would love to pay YouTube. But I will never pay a company that abuses my data the way they do.
There’s that, but I’d also like to point out, that as a paying customer, you’re still force fed that bottom tier slop with no way to filter it other than hoping some combination of reporting/not interested/don’t show me this channel again works.
But even if you say, not to recommend a channel, it can still show up. So you get to pay for low grade AI slop videos. Or “content farms” that take 2 videos and just splice them together for some reason (both horizontal and vertical). Or the “I’m just going to stare at the camera and do nothing while I play a video that’s from another platform”. Like it’s endless.
The “shorts” platform is pure garbage. Can I turn shorts off? No I can “show fewer shorts”.
So you pay, to not get ads. They sell ALL your data to double dip (since they selling your data anywho) and there’s no benefit for the content. They have all this data, all this tech, and the platform is rot with shit.
That’s true. I guess I would only pay for a YouTube that is actually useful. “People want to block channels. Best we can do is ‘I am not interested’ and still show them.”
The “shorts” platform is pure garbage. Can I turn shorts off? No I can “show fewer shorts”.
Once again the pirate version (revanced) of youtube is better than the actual paid version. Revanced and ublock filter take care of shorts for me. Haven’t seen them in months
On my desktop I use YouTube Enhancer on Firefox and you can make it to where shorts literally never show up.
Now, if only it could filter out the “Buy Premium Now” and “Try Out Our AI Bullshit” boxes that appear…
You can also just use a ublock filter to block shorts
i heard they even planning ads on “paid” version eventually.
I’d be willing to get YouTube Premium just to get rid of ads, but they’re bundling it with YouTube Music and I’m not trusting Google with my music purchases any more, thank you.
They discontinued Google Play Music (fortunately only after a long long period of time allowing you to download MP3s with their bloody terrible client app, so no loss there) and told me that you can just import the purchases to YouTube Music. Which I couldn’t actually access.
Also I don’t want a music streaming service, I just want to buy the albums. It’s pretty sad that it seems the only remaining feasible local option for electronic music purchases is iTunes! Bloody iTunes!
I just use bandcamp and cds for most stuff. If its out of print or unavailable outside of streaming (i listen to a lot of indie pop), i just rip it offline. Not my fault they dont make it easy to get legitimately.
Its just stored in a folder on my pc. Like 800 hrs of music and growing. Quit streaming all together like 6 months ago now
you gladly feed them your viewing habits to increase their value to their shareholders though 🤷
you aren’t hurting their bottom line by not watching ads. You’re just making a tiny dent into a single line of thousands on some slides on the evp of youtube’s quarterly presentation. No one else notices.
Your data and viewing habits and patterns and all of the device info you leak and broadcast? The wifi signals your phone is always seeing? Oh that bluetooth device that just rode past your apartment while your blocking ads on youtube? Definitely not being seen by them. Apps are spyware these days, and they are spying on everything
My main point is that if it wasn’t a privacy destroying capitalist evil company and website, that it would provide enough possible value for me to want to pay. My data is one of the reasons it isn’t, I was merely answering to the article and context here.
I recommend turning off the device completely when an ad starts. This not only works, but has improved my entire life.
Or use a different front end on mobile or unlock on Firefox. I haven’t seen a YouTube as in years. Also smarttube for Android tv.
Who still watches YT without adblocker? It must be horrible.
People with android phones who use YouTube app.
reVanced is alive, well, good, and at this point necessary
No, Firefox with uBlock works fine!
Watching youtube in a mobile browser works, but is a completely separate form of torture
It’s not that bad if you add uBlock, Sponsorblock, DeArrow and NoYoutubeShorts.
:sweat:
Do Vanced et al even have Sponsorblock functionality?
Revanced does, that’s how I was introduced to it. And the UI is more polished than the Sponsorblock browser extension.
When I see a link to a potentially interesting YT video, I just send the link to my PC.
Ublock works on Firefox on phone. Can skip the PC step if ya want
Me on (android) TV. On PC I have ad blocker. On TV ads time is between 6 seconds and 1 minute. Sometimes ads contain AI slop. 💀
On TV I silenced them as they start and look elsewhere meanwhile… I find joy in training myself to be unable to consciously recognise at all what is ongoing till the video start
SmartTube for Android TV gives you adblock and sponsorblock
This app is unavaliable on my TV
Use Downloader by AFTVNews to download and install it, I guarantee it’s worth the ~5 minutes of effort it takes to do and AFTVNews Downloader is safe. I don’t know how anyone watches Youtube without ad block and sponsorblock these days, haha.
It works. Thanks
Try ReVanced.
Theres also the possibility to use a VPN and log in from Albania (I think) to avoid ads altogether because they’re not legal there.
It is Albania. I will say that it’s more correct to say that YouTube chooses not to send ads to Albania, rather than Albania banning it.
Albanians anti ad laws state that ads are required to be safe for children, with the platform being responsible for failure… So Google is not spending the effort to make the ads safe.
I didn’t know it is the other way around (Albania ban vs. YouTube not playing ads)! Thanks for elaborating.
Someone who don’t want to lose their emails… In https://lemmy.cafe/comment/15974964 it was mentioned that their entire google account got banned for 10 years over adblocking youtube. I stopped watching youtube immediately… I’m not about to watch ads, but I don’t want to lose access to my 22 year old personal account… So many accounts are tied to that address, that I can’t manage to move to a different service.
FML what happened to “do no evil”? Now it’s “make money with the baby grinding machine for all costs”
Don’t log in on YouTube. Unless you’re uploading, there’s no point.
I would be scared as hell to rely on Google like that. You are one automated Ai decision away from losing access.
At least move your mail to a proper company. Jesus.
what YouTube ads
I think it might be something that happens during that short pause before a video starts?
why not have UBLOCK origin.
I have recently had a funny discussion with a husband of my wife’s friend. In short, he’s not an IT guy but does run ad blockers on each browser and device as he can. He was wondering why people wont use ad blockers since it is trivial to install and even chrome uBO lite works well on youtube (dunno about that fact, I have migrated to FF as soon as they announced Manifest V3)
Normies just wont. It is just not what they do. And they are the majority.
This applies to everything 😄😄😄
Normies just wont. It is just not what they do. And they are the majority.
And that’s actually a good thing. If 90% of users used ad blockers on youtube, their profit model wouldn’t work and they’d stat locking more behind a subscription or they’d double down on cracking adblockers. We can enjoy an ad blocked youtube experience because the majority of users don’t.
On the other hand, If everyone would use adblockers, maybe content creator market would evolve into viewers supporting their favorite creators directly, or youtube having a subscription model that is much better than a current one in a way of user experience and creator support.
i tried to “unblock” my ads for some channel owners, nope instant bombard with tons of ads.
Trust me, there’s no way people are going to fund creators that much.
Patreon would like a word.
If Patreon was enough, youtubers wouldn’t enable midroll ads
Literally a bunch of martial arts YouTubers that keep getting asked by fans if they would play D&D together, so they started a patreon/gofundme and got back almost 500% of their funding goal in only 2 days.
People absolutely would/will fund the creators they care about.
I’ll add a few from my own experience.
Few years back I found Civvie11 on youtube. He just had released the first Pro Blood video and I liked it so much, I opened my patreon account and subbed to him. At that time he had around $500 a month from patrons. I think not even a year has passed, when I checked for patron content, he had $3000 a month going only from patrons. For a small channel like his, that is quite a sum of money to receive. Today he has 485k subs and $4300 a month off patrons. Not bad imo for a not so popular gaming channel.
Another nice example: decino is pulling $1000 a month with a tiny 200k sub YT channel pretty much only about Doom gameplay.
For larger channels with multiple millions of subs and a patreon or some other crowdfunding sources putting ads into their videos they are pulling much more. Not to mention paid ads in their vids.
Also, twitch proves that people are willing to spend 5 bucks a month for their favorite content creator. This is totally possible to run youtube clone funded by viewers.
i think people are unaware that google takes most of the ad revenue from them, thats why they use PATREON as a source.
Nah youtube will never stop being free no matter how many are ad blocking. Content creators will all leave because they can’t pay the bills with 3,000 views a day. They’d loose billions of active users and Alphabet’s shareholders will shit their pants.
Youtube doesn’t actually loose anything from ad blocking. It’s advertisers who lose out and it’s easier for youtube to scam them than us. If the advertising money dries up Youtube will simply go back to operating in the red just like it did for most of it’s existence.
Revenue, debt, profit, products, customers, etc. Not of that shit means anything anymore because the billionaires have decided to let the world burn. The market today is nothing but gambling, theft, insider trading, grift and speculation and they’re going to do that for as long as they can before the party ends.
Lose, not loose. Loose uses a soft S, and means uncoupled, held in a less firm grip.
Bruh, it’s not even hard to tell that it was a typo. Nobody asked for dictionary.com.
content creators mostly use patreon, brand deals and promotions, they know AD revenue is in the drain or they selling thier own products on thier channel.
I’m kinda glad they won’t. If I tell you how easy it is to install an ad blocker and you don’t, you’re just funding my leeching through your data and time that you claim has no value.
Don’t worry. Those normies are about to cost us the whole open web, and there’s nothing we can do to stop them.
That’s why I install that stuff for the people I know.
“unskippable” laughs in ublock/revanced
Anyone got an app to sideload or method of getting adfree youtube, lg, android os or apple
Firefox
For apple tv?
Newpipe or tubular
Yeah I use tubular or revanced on my phone, for tv it is more difficult
Newpipe is great, been using it for years
Or Grayjay
deleted by creator
I double dare you!
I set my VPN to Albania. Ads on YouTube are banned in Albania.
On the web, I be Albanian.
It’s like people sit around thinking, " How can I wreck some shit?"
I often entirely forget that youtube and most of the internet is plagued with ads. It’s a shock to use a family member’s phone or laptop that does not have adblock
My computer is covered, but which app is safe to block ads on my phone?
On my phone it’s not just the ads that aggravate but also the autoplay videos–the ones that follow you as you scroll down. I can’t prevent them from autoplaying.
Mobile firefox is compatible with desktop addons, so you can still use ublock origin on your phone. I also use pihole to cover my whole local network and wireshark to VPN my phone to my local network when out of the house. If you’re on iPhone you’re probably just out of luck.
I generally do everything in-browser and do not use any other mobile apps, so no youtube app, etc.
This is the first I’ve ever heard of following autoplay videos lol
What’s your opinion on duckduckgo on a phone?
I used to use https://html.duckduckgo.com/ as my search engine before I started self-hosting SearXNG. The duckduckgo website works fine on a phone, the same as desktop
The Internet is practically unusable without adblock. Rawdogging the web you get a postage stamp sized amount of content bordered by flashing ads and video ads. No fuckin thanks homie
YouTube has ads?
Sincerely,
Ublock Origin User
I used to pay for premium a couple years ago because I still wanted to support the creators I watched, but ever since they started implementing AI everywhere and stealing peoples videos for training data I figured Google doesn’t deserve my money no matter how small. I’d much rather watch with uBlock and spend that $20 I used to spend on YouTube Premium on the various YouTubers Patreons.
You know that’s not a bad idea at all I think the cut is better for them that way too they probably make significantly more for an individuals watch time from a donation on Patreon vs that person watching their video once or twice.
I wonder what the breaking point is for those who don’t use adblockers.
Remember that some people voluntarily pay for TV and streaming with ads.
Yeah, funny people. I personally prefer my ads to be free on free streaming services. Even if it means to wait a few weeks or so before desired content will be available on these services.
I had been paying for it a while ago since, to be fair, the service is free otherwise and often times it pays the creator more. Then Youtube decided to give about $45mil or so worth of energy toward making pro-Israel content and suddenly I didn’t mind the ads so much anymore. Now they’re making it a lot worse and my solution is going to need to be an adblocker.
