YouTube viewers will soon have to sit through even longer ads, with Google rolling out new 30-second unskippable spots on a popular app.

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    21 hours ago

    It’s so fucking funny though. I would love to pay YouTube. But I will never pay a company that abuses my data the way they do.

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      There’s that, but I’d also like to point out, that as a paying customer, you’re still force fed that bottom tier slop with no way to filter it other than hoping some combination of reporting/not interested/don’t show me this channel again works.

      But even if you say, not to recommend a channel, it can still show up. So you get to pay for low grade AI slop videos. Or “content farms” that take 2 videos and just splice them together for some reason (both horizontal and vertical). Or the “I’m just going to stare at the camera and do nothing while I play a video that’s from another platform”. Like it’s endless.

      The “shorts” platform is pure garbage. Can I turn shorts off? No I can “show fewer shorts”.

      So you pay, to not get ads. They sell ALL your data to double dip (since they selling your data anywho) and there’s no benefit for the content. They have all this data, all this tech, and the platform is rot with shit.

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        That’s true. I guess I would only pay for a YouTube that is actually useful. “People want to block channels. Best we can do is ‘I am not interested’ and still show them.”

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        The “shorts” platform is pure garbage. Can I turn shorts off? No I can “show fewer shorts”.

        Once again the pirate version (revanced) of youtube is better than the actual paid version. Revanced and ublock filter take care of shorts for me. Haven’t seen them in months

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        On my desktop I use YouTube Enhancer on Firefox and you can make it to where shorts literally never show up.

        Now, if only it could filter out the “Buy Premium Now” and “Try Out Our AI Bullshit” boxes that appear…

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      I’d be willing to get YouTube Premium just to get rid of ads, but they’re bundling it with YouTube Music and I’m not trusting Google with my music purchases any more, thank you.

      They discontinued Google Play Music (fortunately only after a long long period of time allowing you to download MP3s with their bloody terrible client app, so no loss there) and told me that you can just import the purchases to YouTube Music. Which I couldn’t actually access.

      Also I don’t want a music streaming service, I just want to buy the albums. It’s pretty sad that it seems the only remaining feasible local option for electronic music purchases is iTunes! Bloody iTunes!

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        I just use bandcamp and cds for most stuff. If its out of print or unavailable outside of streaming (i listen to a lot of indie pop), i just rip it offline. Not my fault they dont make it easy to get legitimately.

        Its just stored in a folder on my pc. Like 800 hrs of music and growing. Quit streaming all together like 6 months ago now

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      you gladly feed them your viewing habits to increase their value to their shareholders though 🤷

      you aren’t hurting their bottom line by not watching ads. You’re just making a tiny dent into a single line of thousands on some slides on the evp of youtube’s quarterly presentation. No one else notices.

      Your data and viewing habits and patterns and all of the device info you leak and broadcast? The wifi signals your phone is always seeing? Oh that bluetooth device that just rode past your apartment while your blocking ads on youtube? Definitely not being seen by them. Apps are spyware these days, and they are spying on everything

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    I recommend turning off the device completely when an ad starts. This not only works, but has improved my entire life.

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      19 hours ago

      Or use a different front end on mobile or unlock on Firefox. I haven’t seen a YouTube as in years. Also smarttube for Android tv.

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      Me on (android) TV. On PC I have ad blocker. On TV ads time is between 6 seconds and 1 minute. Sometimes ads contain AI slop. 💀

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        On TV I silenced them as they start and look elsewhere meanwhile… I find joy in training myself to be unable to consciously recognise at all what is ongoing till the video start

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        Theres also the possibility to use a VPN and log in from Albania (I think) to avoid ads altogether because they’re not legal there.

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          It is Albania. I will say that it’s more correct to say that YouTube chooses not to send ads to Albania, rather than Albania banning it.

          Albanians anti ad laws state that ads are required to be safe for children, with the platform being responsible for failure… So Google is not spending the effort to make the ads safe.

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      Someone who don’t want to lose their emails… In https://lemmy.cafe/comment/15974964 it was mentioned that their entire google account got banned for 10 years over adblocking youtube. I stopped watching youtube immediately… I’m not about to watch ads, but I don’t want to lose access to my 22 year old personal account… So many accounts are tied to that address, that I can’t manage to move to a different service.

      FML what happened to “do no evil”? Now it’s “make money with the baby grinding machine for all costs”

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      I have recently had a funny discussion with a husband of my wife’s friend. In short, he’s not an IT guy but does run ad blockers on each browser and device as he can. He was wondering why people wont use ad blockers since it is trivial to install and even chrome uBO lite works well on youtube (dunno about that fact, I have migrated to FF as soon as they announced Manifest V3)

      Normies just wont. It is just not what they do. And they are the majority.

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        Normies just wont. It is just not what they do. And they are the majority.

        And that’s actually a good thing. If 90% of users used ad blockers on youtube, their profit model wouldn’t work and they’d stat locking more behind a subscription or they’d double down on cracking adblockers. We can enjoy an ad blocked youtube experience because the majority of users don’t.

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          On the other hand, If everyone would use adblockers, maybe content creator market would evolve into viewers supporting their favorite creators directly, or youtube having a subscription model that is much better than a current one in a way of user experience and creator support.

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          Nah youtube will never stop being free no matter how many are ad blocking. Content creators will all leave because they can’t pay the bills with 3,000 views a day. They’d loose billions of active users and Alphabet’s shareholders will shit their pants.

          Youtube doesn’t actually loose anything from ad blocking. It’s advertisers who lose out and it’s easier for youtube to scam them than us. If the advertising money dries up Youtube will simply go back to operating in the red just like it did for most of it’s existence.

          Revenue, debt, profit, products, customers, etc. Not of that shit means anything anymore because the billionaires have decided to let the world burn. The market today is nothing but gambling, theft, insider trading, grift and speculation and they’re going to do that for as long as they can before the party ends.

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        I’m kinda glad they won’t. If I tell you how easy it is to install an ad blocker and you don’t, you’re just funding my leeching through your data and time that you claim has no value.

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        Don’t worry. Those normies are about to cost us the whole open web, and there’s nothing we can do to stop them.

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    10 hours ago

    Anyone got an app to sideload or method of getting adfree youtube, lg, android os or apple

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    I set my VPN to Albania. Ads on YouTube are banned in Albania.

    On the web, I be Albanian.

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    I often entirely forget that youtube and most of the internet is plagued with ads. It’s a shock to use a family member’s phone or laptop that does not have adblock

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      My computer is covered, but which app is safe to block ads on my phone?

      On my phone it’s not just the ads that aggravate but also the autoplay videos–the ones that follow you as you scroll down. I can’t prevent them from autoplaying.

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        Mobile firefox is compatible with desktop addons, so you can still use ublock origin on your phone. I also use pihole to cover my whole local network and wireshark to VPN my phone to my local network when out of the house. If you’re on iPhone you’re probably just out of luck.

        I generally do everything in-browser and do not use any other mobile apps, so no youtube app, etc.

        This is the first I’ve ever heard of following autoplay videos lol

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      The Internet is practically unusable without adblock. Rawdogging the web you get a postage stamp sized amount of content bordered by flashing ads and video ads. No fuckin thanks homie

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    I used to pay for premium a couple years ago because I still wanted to support the creators I watched, but ever since they started implementing AI everywhere and stealing peoples videos for training data I figured Google doesn’t deserve my money no matter how small. I’d much rather watch with uBlock and spend that $20 I used to spend on YouTube Premium on the various YouTubers Patreons.

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      You know that’s not a bad idea at all I think the cut is better for them that way too they probably make significantly more for an individuals watch time from a donation on Patreon vs that person watching their video once or twice.

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    I was using uBlock but I kept getting messages that said blockers were not allowed. Then they started requiring me to wait to get rid of the warning. Is anyone else having this problem? Is there another add-on I can install to defeat this?