• forrgott@lemm.ee
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    18 days ago

    This is maybe oversimplifying things, however - I will never fully understand how somebody hears a candidate talk only about who they will hurt first, while their opposition talks about how to help the most people…and the guy who wants to increase the human suffering wins.

    I mean, logically, yeah I guess I can understand. But at the same time, I will never get it. :P

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      18 days ago

      I come from an immigrant family. We came legally, sure. But the fight is the same: provide a better life and better opportunities for the next generation.

      It blows my mind how someone can change this to paint the immigrant as bad. All while there are American citizen business men hiring the immigrants. Go after the business men?

      I don’t get it. Wouldn’t people want to look past the place of birth and look into someone’s character? Surely a person fighting for a better life for their family is more honorable than a businessman looking to cut corners.

      I’ve met conservatives with such deep hatred for “illegals” that I sincerely cannot understand where they’re coming from.

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        17 days ago

        It’s all about fear. If the propagandists can play on your fears, you will learn to hate whoever they tell you to; but there’s also greed, which essentially is the fear of not having enough/more/whatever.

        You see, money was not invented to be used as currency. Nor does it represent the “value of labor” or any of that crap. Money is fear made manifest. It only exists so that you will be afraid of not having enough. Even those sociopathic billionaires we all wanna eat only get that twisted and fucked up inside, just cause they’re still afraid of money, or at least that someone else might have more (I think? You have to be a completely useless shitheel to amass that much wealth).

        And finally, lack of a sense of personal responsibility. So much easier if it’s someone else’s fault you didn’t make it big.

        Oh, and the hatred of a conservative will never make sense. They have imported the thoughts and ideals of another whole cloth, all because they’re afraid of being on the losing team. There is no logic to such things; it’s a very insidious form of brainwashing.

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        17 days ago

        They have been sold a lie that all the changes in their life have been the fault of immigrants, poor people, technology etc. The life they were promised doesn’t exist anymore and they fear change, and they are provided with a scapegoat be it immigration or so called liberals. It is easier to fear and hate something than to look at the truth. The wealthy and elite have been steadily taking more and more in their greed and lust for power.

        President Lyndon B. Johnson once said:

        "If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.

        This has just expanded a bit more to immigrants as well in recent decades.

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          17 days ago

          The hubris is terrifying, is it not?

          I mean where is the endgame? To be so consumed by fear/hatred (same thing) that you willfully set society on a path to destruction, but to convince yourself your pile of invisible coins will save you from the consequences of trying to live on a dying planet.

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            17 days ago

            The endgame isn’t about what society has, it’s whatever makes the specific person comfortable.

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      17 days ago

      The Democrats candidates talked at length about how they were tougher on immigration, more supportive of Israel’s genocide, and favoured by sadistic fascists like Dick Cheney. It was literally both parties arguing that they would be the ones to increase human suffering the most