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Why would you need to order pizza online? Not everyone wants to pay fees for the “convenience” of paying more for the food and having to type in my credit card info myself. You call them up, you get a better price, and you pay when you get there.
Food ordering apps aren’t convenient as fuck and I dare you to argued against that.
If you live in a bigger city and have trusty restaurant’s with trusty service, yeah, call em. I do for two of my trusty places, but theyre rather far and expensive from where I now live. And the places around here change like everyone year or two. So yeah.
God I hate this new phone the screen is just the tiniest bit too small and I keep hitting the left most suggestion instead of the middle one, turning ares into aren’ts and woulds into wouldn’ts.
I’m sure you know what I meant.
Pretending they aren’t massively popular exactly because they make the whole thing easier and more comfortable (browsing menus you know are up to date, being able to specify allergies as much as you want, etc) would be incredibly naive.
Is capitalism using it aa a possibility to exploit even more? Yes. Does that suck balls? Yes. But does is the tech itself shit? No.
Capitalism enshittifies everything. Automation isn’t cursed at because the current economic system mean that the working classes will get less, and that is a bad thing. The technology isn’t. So the tech isn’t the issue. Capitalism is.
I use them only when it’s free (ie someone else is paying for it). I hate them so much. They are not more convenient, they increase the price by 100% and they actively hurt people and small businesses.
A quick web search shows plenty of anecdotes to the contrary.
being able to specify allergies as much as you want
And you trust that?? If I had a serious food allergy I would absolutely NOT trust that a food delivery service would communicate those effectively given how much they push restaurants around, up to and including adding restaurants without their knowledge or consent.
I suppose in the strictest sense, sure, these apps are convenient, but you sure are paying a lot for it, and some restaurants charge extra for it on top of the fees, and the delivery folks aren’t getting a fair cut of the fees. Most of the fees go to big tech.
You’re literally arguing that a billion dollar industry isn’t actually a popular service.
If it’s so much better and more convenient to order by phone, why does almost no-one do it anymore?
And you trust that?? I
I live in Finland, qe have very strict food regulations, but no, I don’t completely trust it. But for well rated high quality restaurants, yeah, mostly.
d, up to and including adding restaurants without their knowledge or consent.
Again this is nothing to do with the tech and that isn’t happening country. What youre against is shit business practice, exploitation and abusing new tech.
Now without too much into any sort of politics, a lot of restaurants are immigrant run, and especially here in Finland, there is a language barrier. And it doesn’t help that most Finns are asshat racists so people feel even less comfortable asking if they got something wrong.
I used to order on the phone all the time as I was doing it before these apps ever came along. So many fucker orders.
I do oppose the abuse and exploitation that poorly regulated food service apps enable, but I’m not against the actual tech.
Obviously if you say “just ignore shitty businesses and practices, the fundamental idea of being able to order from an app is great”…well, sure. I’m not arguing about the idea of apps. I’m arguing about the current status quo.
I have never once said “ignore the shitty business practices”.
I’m saying the underlying tech will remain, and that it is good. That episode was bad. I’ve seen it. But let me tell you, the working condition of the people here in the Nordic are somewhat different. The companies are still shit heads and there are problems but thrive already won the right for the rights of employees, instead of being contractors.
I. Like you. Am against bad business practice and exploitation. Not against tech when it can be used for good.
Why would you need to order pizza online? Not everyone wants to pay fees for the “convenience” of paying more for the food and having to type in my credit card info myself. You call them up, you get a better price, and you pay when you get there.
Why would you need to ordering pizza, period?
Food ordering apps aren’t convenient as fuck and I dare you to argued against that.
If you live in a bigger city and have trusty restaurant’s with trusty service, yeah, call em. I do for two of my trusty places, but theyre rather far and expensive from where I now live. And the places around here change like everyone year or two. So yeah.
Most people use apps.
I agree. Nothing convenient about overpaying to entrust your food to underpaid, unvetted delivery workers
God I hate this new phone the screen is just the tiniest bit too small and I keep hitting the left most suggestion instead of the middle one, turning ares into aren’ts and woulds into wouldn’ts.
I’m sure you know what I meant.
Pretending they aren’t massively popular exactly because they make the whole thing easier and more comfortable (browsing menus you know are up to date, being able to specify allergies as much as you want, etc) would be incredibly naive.
Is capitalism using it aa a possibility to exploit even more? Yes. Does that suck balls? Yes. But does is the tech itself shit? No.
Capitalism enshittifies everything. Automation isn’t cursed at because the current economic system mean that the working classes will get less, and that is a bad thing. The technology isn’t. So the tech isn’t the issue. Capitalism is.
I use them only when it’s free (ie someone else is paying for it). I hate them so much. They are not more convenient, they increase the price by 100% and they actively hurt people and small businesses.
Theyre ripoffs especially in the US.
But the popularity of the tech, despite the enshittification They still are popular.
But the underlying tech is good and convenient.
A quick web search shows plenty of anecdotes to the contrary.
And you trust that?? If I had a serious food allergy I would absolutely NOT trust that a food delivery service would communicate those effectively given how much they push restaurants around, up to and including adding restaurants without their knowledge or consent.
I suppose in the strictest sense, sure, these apps are convenient, but you sure are paying a lot for it, and some restaurants charge extra for it on top of the fees, and the delivery folks aren’t getting a fair cut of the fees. Most of the fees go to big tech.
You’re literally arguing that a billion dollar industry isn’t actually a popular service.
If it’s so much better and more convenient to order by phone, why does almost no-one do it anymore?
I live in Finland, qe have very strict food regulations, but no, I don’t completely trust it. But for well rated high quality restaurants, yeah, mostly.
Again this is nothing to do with the tech and that isn’t happening country. What youre against is shit business practice, exploitation and abusing new tech.
Now without too much into any sort of politics, a lot of restaurants are immigrant run, and especially here in Finland, there is a language barrier. And it doesn’t help that most Finns are asshat racists so people feel even less comfortable asking if they got something wrong.
I used to order on the phone all the time as I was doing it before these apps ever came along. So many fucker orders.
I do oppose the abuse and exploitation that poorly regulated food service apps enable, but I’m not against the actual tech.
Their business model isn’t necessarily functional
Start here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aFsfJYWpqII
Obviously if you say “just ignore shitty businesses and practices, the fundamental idea of being able to order from an app is great”…well, sure. I’m not arguing about the idea of apps. I’m arguing about the current status quo.
I have never once said “ignore the shitty business practices”.
I’m saying the underlying tech will remain, and that it is good. That episode was bad. I’ve seen it. But let me tell you, the working condition of the people here in the Nordic are somewhat different. The companies are still shit heads and there are problems but thrive already won the right for the rights of employees, instead of being contractors.
I. Like you. Am against bad business practice and exploitation. Not against tech when it can be used for good.
What about the technology that runs food delivery services do you find so compelling? I don’t see what’s so special about any of it.