Haven’t watched it just yet, but at least now I know to get good and sloshed first.
I’ll say it.
In spite of everything we saw in Discovery, Michelle Yeoh was always a delight, no matter which character she played
If we got more of her, regardless of the rest, I’ll enjoy it
Michelle Yeoh is clearly not the problem.
If anything, Section 31 suffered from not enough Michelle Yeoh.
Add the Amanda Plummer as Vadic. Those are some phenomenal performances.
Wait is Vadic in this? I would watch it just for her.
I don’t think so… just thinking of some of the best performances of complex villains lately.
I wasn’t a fan; she kept chewing the scenery so much it was almost like the plot had to pause every time she started another soliloquy
I always took the unhinged erratic behavior as the point (Ala Ledgers Joker) but I appreciate you sharing your thoughts on it.
To be honest, it’s not even her performance; it’s the fact that “villains chewing the scenery” has become a trope in itself the last few years. Doctor Who was the worst for that, and poisoned me against it everywhere in SF
She was one of only three seasons I continued to watch the garbage pile that was Discovery. But this was easily the worst I’ve gotten from her character. Not because of her acting. Her character just seemed watered down in this movie.
At least it’s following the “every other” rule for Star Trek Movies. Final Frontier was awful. Undiscovered County was great. Generations has a Rotten Tomatoes score of 47 while First Contact is at 93. See my table below. Now that we’ve gotten a bad one out of the way, I’d watch four to six movies with the SNW Crew.
Film Year RT Rating Motion Picture 1979 52 Wrath of Khan 1982 86 Search for Spock 1984 79 Voyage Home 1986 81 Final Frontier 1989 23 Undiscovered County 1991 83 Generations 1994 47 First Contact 1996 93 Insurrection 1998 55 Galaxy Quest 1999 90 Nemesis 2002 38 Star Trek 2009 94 Into Darkness 2013 84 Beyond 2016 86 Section 31 2025 24 Thanks for including Galaxy Quest.
Why is it included?
It was the best Star Trek available at the time.
That sentence is still valid if you drop the last four words.
Star Trek Discovery was so bad I had to just stop in the second last season… and I was only playing it as background noise at that point! I guess I’ll try this movie but if even Michelle Yeoh can’t save it I’m going back to old 1990s episodes…
Update: I got through it but holy shit… It had some good moments and other bits that felt like a Red Alert cut scene…
As of this comment, about 20ish minutes in. Yeoh can hold her own whilst maintaining the established character from DISCO.
I wouldn’t let that show’s performance discourage viewing other modern Trek. Lower Decks and Prodigy each have their strengths. The latter having a slightly more serious tone and requiring less accumulated knowledge of the series as a whole.
Don’t forget strange new worlds!
Of course. Love the hell out of it, just wanted to promote the animated arm. Doesn’t get much praise.
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“Interesting flavor.”
i like the implication that after the Dominion War, most of Starfleet is just sloshed on whatever that Orion beverage is
Well, Troi is apparently one of the best councilors in Starfleet, so…
One problem I had with the movie is that they underutilized Michelle Yeoh
I was so pleasantly suprised by how good Prodigy season 1 was. Session 2 was meh…
I mean… From the very first article written about the rough idea of the movie we all knew it was going to be trash, and certainly not anything deserving of the name “Star Trek”.
The moment the first trailer dropped a couple of years after that, I personally knew this movie wouldn’t even be worth pirating.
The effort I’d spend on finding a pirate source, and the time I’d waste watching this, are far too valuable.
Look at it this way. A lot of the memes that get made are from the absolute worst episodes. This entire movie is going to be prime meme fodder.
Me feeling like Data in S3 of Picard:
I would not recommend watching it sloshed. That combination would just put me to sleep.
It’s a terribly simple MacGuffin-chasing plot, yet somehow feels weighed down by exposition. All of the characters are super flat and under developed. It’s not bad in any entertaining way, it’s just boring.
There was a lot of talk around here before hand about whether Section 31 should ever be used as protagonists, or if that represents a betrayal of the principles behind Star Trek. This movie was not worth that level of discussion. It doesn’t raise any murky moral quandaries or even really glorify the idea of an anything-goes type secret organization. This could just as easily have been an on-the-books Starfleet team - apart from the fact that they didn’t seem all that competent. The concept implies a darker version of a Mission Impossible team, but what was delivered was a bunch of goofballs more in line with Guardians of the Galaxy.
Pluses:
Michelle Yeoh does a great job with what she’s given. That’s not much, but she’s fun to watch as always.
The woman who plays young Rachel Garrett does a good job - she has some of the cringiest dialogue in this, but she delivers it well. I wouldn’t mind seeing more of her in this role, though that seems very unlikely at this point.
The action is executed well enough, and the effects are all very pretty. It doesn’t mean much without a compelling story behind it, but it’s still worth saying.
The idea of a microscopic character is interesting, and they used it in some fun ways. The character himself was awfully annoying, though!
The editing was also really jarring. Constant cuts to really tight close ups of characters who haven’t been introduced to the audience. And the fight scenes were somehow too shakey and too slow.
As someone who’s studied extensively at the Gizmonic Institute of Deep Hurting, it’s just not a very good movie.
Haven’t watched yet but its funny to me the idea that the Federation with their lofty principles still has a secret police – but its actually a make work program for all the incurable psychopaths in the galaxy that resembles a black ops wetworks deep cover operations in every way, except you give them “very important and secret missions” just chasing each other around the edges of the galaxy to keep them away from the rest of the federation
I love it - much more consistent with Star Trek concepts than whatever it is they’ve been going for. I could almost see Lower Decks sneaking an idea like that in if they were still around.
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It’s alright. Didn’t really feel like a star trek movie but I really like Georgiou. Also it seemed really rushed.
Edit: Also I just remembered. Rachel’s cameo seemed kind of fan service-y. There was no reason for her to be there.
Star Trek: Section 31
… CIA in space
Edit: direct re-upload since catbox is down
I still stand by my theory that Ms. Piggy is Q.
CIA Pigs In Space!!! … starring Foster Dulles and his younger sister Allison Dulles
… btw … I always loved the Muppet Show and ‘Pigs In Space’ … Waldorf and Statler calling from the balcony ‘YOU CALL THAT ACTING!!’
I was already unmotivated because I don’t love Section 31 (conceptionally) in Trek that much and Discovery is the one series I struggle to get though…
Really my singular reason to watch it is that Michell Yeoh is awesome
People just love to hate. It’s not that bad.
Wasn’t some big wig saying this is the direction they want all ST to go?
Oof. I haven’t read anything about it; I’ve only seen commercials. I was hoping it would at least be tolerable. Oh well.
…from getting properly drunk enough to find some kind of enjoyment in it.
I did not even knew that this exist *shrug
Shocked, I tell you.