“And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be,” he said.

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      The terrifying thing is that a sizable portion of this country reads this list and thinks it sounds like a great idea.

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        Some of it. I don’t know that even a sizable portion of this country wants to raise prescription drug prices. I also think a very small percentage wants to get rid of no fault divorce or contraception. Even most Catholics are fine with contraception. And use it too.

        Raising the retirement age? I’d guess that their sizable voting bloc in their 60s wouldn’t be good with that.

        Honestly, I think the more people learn about this, the more they will find things they don’t like about it. Even Republicans.

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          Even Republicans

          Yeah, but they mean all that for other people, not me!

          …hey, what’s that leopard staring at me for?

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    They forget how many of us gun owning liberals there are. They think they can bully everyone around because they think they own all the guns thus the upper hand. They’re are far too dense to realize they’re entirely wrong. We just don’t make it our entire personality. I don’t feel the need to put my guns on display to prove to people I don’t even know what a MaNlY rUgGeD BaDaSs I am. That’s not why i own them. I very much enjoy the sport and technical knowledge and focus required to hit the target in different situations. I want to be perceived as a loving husband and a kind and honorable man and friend. Those two things are at odds. Or maybe I’m just not insecure about my masculinity.

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      They forget how many of us gun owning liberals there are.

      Without an organization and leadership to coordinate action, that’s not particularly useful.

      Movement conservatism is scary because it’s a movement, not just a bunch of nutjobs who all happen to own guns.

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        There is plenty of leadership and coordination, just not for this purpose. People adapt. I hope it may not be necessary for that to happen, but I know plenty of people who are excellent community organizers. All they need is to change what they teach at their outreach classes.

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          People adapt.

          Under a fascist leadership, they adapt by becoming more accommodating to fascists and more allergic to liberal democracy.

          I know plenty of people who are excellent community organizers. All they need is to change what they teach at their outreach classes.

          I agree in theory. But in practice, it seems any kind of militant liberalism gets dismissed as “both sides” or denounced as “being a tankie”.

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        Guerilla warfare is incredibly effective. The only thing that has a chance of overcoming it is coordinated national military might, and even then its a shitshow.

        Seeing as the military is at about a 45/55 liberal/conservative split, with the majority of officers being liberal, they dont even have that on lockdown.

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          Guerilla warfare is incredibly effective.

          Kids love to read about the American Revolution, Vietnam and Afghanistan, or the Cuban Revolt (that finally succeeded). They’re less excited to read about Grenada, Guatamala, the Spanish Republicans, the Hungarian Revolt, the century of Cuban revolutions that failed, the American Confederacy, the Battle of Blair Mountain, the Greek Civil War, the Philippines, or the American Natives.

          Guerrilla Warfare is incredibly bloody affair. Rebels rarely live to see the revolt successfully concluded even when it does succeed. The problem with wars of attrition are that they get a lot of their participants killed.

          Who here actually wants to die for their cause?

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            Gangs die for less. Fred Hampton was going to give them a cause and make them into freedom fighters, and that made the government very very scared.

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    Our President understands the grave threat this movement poses, and will do everything in his power to fight for democracy , right after his nap.

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      You’re gonna get Trump in November, so cheer up buttercup, how could it get any worse? /s

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        Well, I was hoping he’d be pushed aside and we’d somehow get a better nominee.

        It’s the last thing I have to hope for.

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          Better? Sadly, that’s not gonna change anything. The neo-commies have pushed a lot of the lefties to the “not voting” mentality. Which, as designed, creates a Trump win.

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            I love how lefties are always blamed for dem losses. It couldn’t possibly be the democratic party’s fault at all for anything.

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              A lefty isn’t a lefty if they are willing to let it slide right because they’re sad their options are poor this year.

              That’s called an accelerationist. It’s what happens when far left or far right people give up trying to change things in a traditional way, and focus on pushing society to the brink.

              Lemmy (and to an extent all social media) is a breeding ground for accelerationist thinking. Most of the comments here are focused on leftist gategeeking in order to persuade them to think in that way.

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                A lefty isn’t a lefty if they are willing to let it slide right because they’re sad their options are poor this year.

                I don’t see how lefties are sliding right at all.

                The only job of the Democratic Party is to get votes, if they are not courting votes from demographics they need, that is 100% the party’s fault and no one else’s. The options being “poor this year” is a massive Democratic Party failing.

                If the election this year is as dire as dems are claiming, why aren’t they doing a better job?

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    Do you all remember how quickly they backed down as soon as ashley babbit was shot? (yes I know I spelled it wrong, I don’t care to honor that piece of trash). A whole crowd of these fuckers. and presumably the most rabid of them, their infantry if you will. These are the cultists who spent money, time, and energy to be there. So they are also the ones with means. Also, presumably a bunch of them were carrying concealed weapons. Then one person gets shot and the entire thing crumbles. Cowards. Through and through cowards. And they think they can win a war?

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      It’s simple: Trump wins, they win (unless he fucks it up, which he probably will).

      Trump loses, they lose no matter how violent they get.

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        Trump loses, they lose

        They’ve been on this shit since the Confederate Era. Trump is just the latest in a long line of fascist bannermen.