cross-posted from: https://europe.pub/post/7501

What European email services do you use?

Please recommend other interesting email services by your experience.

I have switched from Google’s Gmail to ProtonMail and kMail. I really like both, kMail (by Infomaniak) have very similar app interface to Gmail so you will get used to it very fast and also have big storage for free and very good offers for paid plans 👍🏼

Originally posted on Reddit

  • A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
    383·
    9 days ago

    Oh nice hadn’t heard of KMail and I’m trying to degoogle. Proton’s fine but the owner is another tool so options are nice

    Oh it’s KDE even better

    • asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev
      36·
      9 days ago

      KMail is not a service by KDE, you probably confused it with KMail, the mail client by KDE. It’s a service by Infomaniak.

      • anguo@lemmy.caEnglish
        8·
        9 days ago

        It was also pretty hard to find information about it, searching for “ikmail” will get you there easier. I also found out it’s technically not available in Canada yet, although I’m sure this shouldn’t be too hard to circumvent.

  • jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
    301·
    9 days ago

    “Needs client app” is a funny way of saying it “supports open protocols as first class citizens”.

  • szczuroarturo@programming.dev
    21·
    8 days ago

    Just a quick notice about proton here. While it is great, if you tend to forget your passwords be carefull beacuse you will lose all your mail history when you recover. I would reccomend something more casual for casual users.

    • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
      286·
      8 days ago

      If you use Proton and forget your passwords, it’s okay because the Proton CEO openly praised a US president who has a history of breaking privacy laws and is actively antagonizing allies. With that moral compass running Proton, your privacy and security might be compromised at a later date.

      • Jofus@lemmy.world
        5·
        8 days ago

        Wasnt this just one message on X? Though I understand Everyone’s worries. Isn’t Proton a company with a board of directors and a binding mission statement. I am sincerely wondering if the whole thing isn’t blown up too much. For me I am with proton for now and keeping my ear to the ground concerning any developments. But in short Proton is a safe and secure EU based alternative for Gmail right now, wouldn’t you agree?

        Proton’s whole mission statement is based around privacy so it would take a big shift in the company to actually start registering and selling data… at least that’s my perspective. I’m curious to see if any more developments will occur concerning their CEO

    • jon@lemdro.idEnglish
      3·
      8 days ago

      That second sentence could do with a disambiguating comma…

  • Great Blue@infosec.pub
    201·
    9 days ago

    mailbox.org has a web app, so no need for a client app.
    And Posteo also supports POP3, IMAP and SMTP, so you can use every mail client with support for it.

    • unsettlinglymoist@lemmy.world
      71·
      9 days ago

      I’m in the US and wanted to switch from Gmail to a privacy focused European email provider, so I paid for a year of Posteo and so far I’ve been really happy with it. The service is excellent, it’s inexpensive and their ethics/values as an organization are wonderful.

      • Great Blue@infosec.pub
        2·
        9 days ago

        Back then I was deciding between Posteo and mailbox.
        I choose mailbox because, at least at the time, they had unlimited calendars and Posteo only offered 3 free ones.
        Also the website of mailbox seemed more respectable / unspectacular / boring than Posteo. Posteos website got me some typical start-up vibes, means hoping for fast growth and quick exit. But there I guess I was wrong.

  • matelt@feddit.uk
    203·
    9 days ago

    I switched over to Proton a few weeks ago, so far so good. They had my name available so no more weird convoluted email address anymore yay!

  • SabinStargem@lemmy.todayEnglish
    15·
    8 days ago

    ProtonMail. Despite the boss likely being a conservative dogebag, their company is headquartered in Switzerland. That is the first big thing I check for my privacy and banking services. It is harder for a service to be poisoned by Yarvin’s Cabal if the service’s HQ is located in a democratic country, especially one famed for their privacy.

  • Polderviking@feddit.nl
    12·
    8 days ago

    Proton is fairly far in delivering a polished unified experience in commonly used internet services, including mail + calendar, password manager, file/photo storage and vpn services.

  • snuggledick@lemm.ee
    11·
    9 days ago

    Been using mailbox.org for a couple of years and I’m quite happy with it. Don’t know what “needs client app” is supposed to mean though. If you don’t want to use a mail client you can use the web interface. I’ve used maildroid on Android with it and when it was discontinued switched to Thunderbird, both work fine with mailbox.org.

    There’s one tiny minor annoyance, they somehow automatically create a new “archive” folder for every year that the web interface uses when you hit the archive button but in your mail client you gotta change the preferences manually once a year. Don’t know if you can change but it’s such a minor inconvenience I never bothered to check.

    • loweffortname@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      4·
      9 days ago

      I’ve been happy with mailbox.org for years, too, yeah.

      My only complaint is their WebDav experience is…just not very good. It’s probably that I wanted a sync client and not a webdav client. But it wasn’t quite standard (iirc) so getting everything configured was a pain…

      • snuggledick@lemm.ee
        1·
        8 days ago

        Yeah I’m using it for mail only but I remember when I first got the account it told me to install some weird extra app to sync tasks and calendars. Never bothered to and kept using Google unfortunately, maybe it’s time to look into it.

        • loweffortname@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          1·
          8 days ago

          If you’re talking about Davx5, it actually works great for calendar/contact sync and is (mostly?) OSS. At least, I know I can install it from f-droid…

        • Leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          1·
          8 days ago

          Davx5 yep. Its very easy. I can’t be arsed to search for it but if you look through my comment history you’ll see a comment I made in the last couple if weeks on how to set it up. Its incredibly easy.

    • Tyde@discuss.tchncs.de
      1·
      8 days ago

      I just switched over to it from proton. Do not have the issue that their spam filter is abysmally bad? There is so much spam coming though and even mails that I already reported as spam come through. Also the app is kinda slow and clumsy.

  • GingerBear@lemm.ee
    10·
    9 days ago

    I tried

    • Proton - too expensive
    • Tuta - too limited
    • infomaniak - i like it, but also limited

    Created new domain name in cloudflare and got free account at zoho. It’s free badic account, but with a symbolic gesture of 0.9 euro a month, you also get smtp, IMAP etc… and it plays very well with cloudflare!

      • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl
        6·
        9 days ago

        Probably the ability to use alternative clients like Thunderbird.

        I also miss that on tuta. Their client is pretty barebones.

        • GingerBear@lemm.ee
          1·
          8 days ago

          Exactly, although it does a nice job with security and all, but it felth like I was wearing a straitjacket. And I’m not interested in getting 3 party applications to do what other things do naively.

          I have many calendars, and it is important for me to be able to obmverlap all calendars in a single view. Typically coprpret calendars are setting the limit.

          Functionality above security.

  • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz
    9·
    9 days ago

    Disroot is based in the netherlands i believe.

    https://disroot.org/en

    From their page:

    “Disroot is a platform providing online services based on principles of freedom, privacy, federation and decentralization.

    No tracking, no ads, no profiling, no data mining!”