In a statement, Biden said that while Israel has taken responsibility for her death, the U.S. government expects continued access as the investigation continues over the circumstances of the shooting. “There must be full accountability. And Israel must do more to ensure that incidents like this never happen again,” Biden said.

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    Remember when he had those words about sanctioning high ranking members of Israel’s government if the genocide continued?

    Then he sanctioned some broke ass “settlers” for a week or two and pulled it back once everyone had clapped for him.

    • Not doubting you, but as I don’t recall this (probably because of the exhausting news cycle) citations would help.

      Anyways, I’m encouraged by the fact that other countries that are similarly allied like the UK are starting to say no. The US might not have been ready to be the first one or the only one from this group, but hopefully it will do the right thing when others like the UK set the right example…

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      Human rights are only important when politically convenient.

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        I think this quote from Harris in the debate sums up the American support for the genocide. You can’t except the former colonial genocidal regime to oppose the new one they propped up.

        And so absolutely, I said then, I say now, Israel has a right to defend itself. We would.

        Edit: it seems most people think I ment this was a good thing? No, America isn’t inherently good.

        This statement shows how America supports the genocide because America would be willing to do similar slaughter if an attack happened to us (look at our post 9/11 actions for an example of the destruction we are willing to cause). It also shows how she not only recognizes but supports this view.

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          The overwhelming majority of Democratic voters and the majority of all Americans support a permanent ceasefire and even conditional arms sales (a plurality for a full arms embargo). Biden and Harris are jeopardizing a significant amount of votes, especially in swing states, by not pivoting on Israel/Palestine. If Harris did pivot, she would get significant gains

          Polls:

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          When I hear that, who is Israel defending it self from if Gaza and the West Bank are not separate nations? Are they part of Israel and Israel is defending itself against itself?

          ‘Defend itself’ makes sense in the context of Iran or Hezbollah, but the thousands of men, women, and children killed in Gaza that are not involved in the fighting aren’t external threats. They are victims of apartheid.

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          I would agree with that statement if over 40,000 confirmed deaths of civilians in 8 months wasn’t what was happening.

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            Do you think America wouldn’t do the same though?

            Edit: I never said it was a good thing, just that she said the quiet part out loud.

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              Are you trying to justify America arming and funding a colonial state intent on wiping out the entire native population in addition to the routine execution and murder of international aid workers and journalists by saying “Well wouldn’t America do the same thing?”

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                No. I’m saying that’s how they justify it.

                Edit: it seems most people think I ment this was a good thing? No, America isn’t inherently good.

                This statement shows how America supports the genocide because America would be willing to do similar slaughter if an attack happened to us (look at our post 9/11 actions for an example of the destruction we are willing to cause). It also shows how she not only recognizes but supports this view.

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              And what actions has she taken to make us believe she actually means to protect Palestinians? Don’t give me quotes, give me actions.

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                  Really?? The Vice President of the United States, second only to the President, has no control over policies being made in the United States? She doesn’t have a podium to address her citizens and her fellow politicians to speak her mind and influence public opinion? She doesn’t preside over the senate to cast tie-breaking votes so that she can help sway decisions? She doesn’t have the ability to make a campaign promise, as the Democratic candidate for President, to stop arming Israel while they slaughter innocents?

                  No, she has a lot of power to help influence decisions. She’s just scared to because of that sweet sweet AIPAC money.