I am specifically asking about software and needed libraries, not stuff like Wikipedia or the writings of Ernest Hemmingway.
To keep people from archiving all of github on thousands of shucked external hard drives cobbled together all Frankenstein-y to create a postapocalyptic data center assume a ~1TB storage limitation. Though I’m sure that person exists here on Lemmy somewhere :D
TrashRobot. So i can crate a simple local wireless network and share data with people
Maps would be the most valuable data.
Printed maps exist already though
How do we get this locally
openstreetmaps I think, and GPS.
Besides the basics (operating systems, compilers, office, CAD, database, etc software):
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A copy of open street map together with the linked Wikipedia articles, along with the software to view and edit them. I know you said no wikipedia, (since that’s pretty much a given), but this is basically the hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy.
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A copy of Godot’s editor so people can still make games.
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As many games as I could fit in the remaining space, concentrating on the ones that give you the most bang for your buck in terms of space.
what are you looking at in terms of bang for buck games?
just hours per MB so all retro?
Honestly, its a great way to go. I have a handheld for emulation. 1tb micro SD has a lot of games on it. Even if you’re just looking at PS1/N64 to PS2/GameCube era, you can get enough games to last you years and it won’t cost much.
oh yeah I’m well aware, I have an anbernic SP and I just ordered a retroid flip 2!
fingers crossed it doesn’t get hit by the tariffs but they earned an ounce of trust in me from how they handled the mini screen issue.
that being said, it is only an ounce of trust. I know well enough to not be blindsided by them potentially dropping the ball forcing me to eat the cost.
here’s hoping I don’t have to though!!
Retro is a good starting point. You can store just about every NES game ever released in less than a GB, and the SNES isn’t that much bigger. Once you get into the 3D era you might have to be a little more selective, but you could still fit a lot of early 3D games in there.
Another way to economize space would be video game mods. Since many mods reuse the same models and textures to make a new game, you could multiply the amount of content you get per MB that way. And there are a ton of Half Life 1 mods, Thief mods, and Doom WADs out there. Gmod can run over LAN, and there’s an absolute ton of maps and game modes for that.
Finally, there are some more modern games that are remarkably small. Animal Well is only 35 MB. Gloomwood is only 2.07 GB, comparable to the size of its inspiration Thief (1998), though Gloomwood is unfinished at the moment and will probably be bigger once it’s out of early access. Shadows of Doubt is 1.31 GB. Lethal Company weighs in at 1.07 GB and can apparently be made to work over LAN. ADACA at 2.44 GB is actually smaller than its inspirations Half Life 2 and STALKER, probably by dint of having only vertex colors and no textures.
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Though I’m sure that person exists here on Lemmy somewhere :D
I feel seen!
In all honesty, I’ve been doing something somewhat similar for the last 2 decades or so. Originally I was building my archives because I was often away from internet access. Now, though, it’s just become habit.
I started with basic first aid and medical texts and whatever other books and reference texts I found interesting. To that I also archive proprietary software and the source code and releases for the open source software I find useful. Add to that ISOs of the distributions I tend to use and I’m at roughly 3TB. I could probably cut that to 2TB if I remove the older Ubuntu and NixOS releases. I’m over 30TB if you include CD and DVD rips.
About the only thing I am missing from my current archives would be a clone of the Ubuntu and NixOS repositories for all of the “glue” dependencies that no one ever thinks of. After that you would just need the hardware to build out the network.
FreeBSD ports with distfiles for things really necessary, with dependencies. I guess that would fit in 1TB and leave some for ebooks and music.
Also software RAID is not Frankensteiny at all, neither are storage clusters of Ceph or alternatives.
What those things necessary would encompass, I don’t know. I suppose similar to Slackware full installation.
It would all make little sense without the Internet. You’d suddenly find that a year 1995 machine, one year older than me, and a few friendly BBSes are not as unrealistically small as they seem now.
Probably guides on how to make a mesh-net and the appropriate hardware to do so. No idea how that’s done.
There you go https://mander.xyz/c/meshtastic
Lots of good things already mentioned. So I’ll say Shareboxx
I’d just go back to living without it.
I’d raid a Google data center and work on rebuilding the Internet with whatever remains of their infrastructure. Wait is this us talking about our apocalypse plans or…?
If apocalypse is another word for thursday…
My home servers time to shine
Everyone shitting on me for having a nas with ~ 200tb of storage and tape backups would finally have to eat shit because I’d have the only streaming service in town
I got enough anime to make crunchy roll blush, I have something like 3,000 series of manga and like 8,000 books in my komga server, I got non weeb shit. I archive tons of webpages and youtube channels, terabytes of music, etc.
In a situation like this I could even throw a lemmy instance on it or something. I don’t do that now but I could
Also all my anime has dubs stripped out to save space and the majority of my manga is in Japanese. 英語しか話せない奴らはクソくらえ
So I eschew your 1tb limitation. I have seen this scenario coming. I planned for it. I’m ready for it. There are others like me on lemmy in the home server page, plus if you look on the truenas, proxmox, unraid, etc forums you’ll find even more
It’s not even going to this - publishers are pulling games, tv series and movies for various reasons.
This is an argument I regularly make
I have several shows in objectively better quality than streaming. We can argue about bitrate (mine definitely has more) but putting that aside, my anime has better subtitles almost always, many of my movies combine physical releases for best quality (eg video from release a with audio from release b)
But more so than anything my library doesn’t have to deal with stupid licensing and reactionary bullshit. My library has Daria but with the original music spliced back in, not the bullshit version you get on streaming now that has all the licensed music stripped out. My library has beavis and butthead with the original music videos and all the parts they had censored. My library has the dungeons and dragons episode of community. Etc.
That’s bonkers! How much physical space does your setup take? A room? A house?
I have 90tb and it sits on a shelf 6’ up in my laundry room (4x in server router/4x in external nas usb-c enclosure)
I recently bought a 2U nas with 12 bays. 6x20T disks at the moment, but with 12 disks it could be configured as a single 200T array.
20TB hard drives are around $300/each. 12 gets you there with excellent redundancy built in.
Toss them in one of these and you have 200TB, with redundancy and room to grow.
Not cheap to do, but the above would only run about 5-6k.
Mine is similar to this except it’s a rack mount case with bays that holds 15 drives (using 14 right now, 252tb -36tb for parity). All of my drives are 18tb and were bought refurbished in the 160-200 range depending on where prices were at.
To anyone looking to do this I strongly suggest reading about raidz expansion. You do not need to just go out and buy 15 drives, you can do what I did and get 2-3 drives many years ago then just keep popping in another every time it gets full and/or one dies
I’m at 80% utilization. Next project: disk shelf to add more drives
I guess you’re the guy OP was referring to
Open source collaboration will be difficult on mesh, so my contribution would be jailbreaks and cracked versions of softwares. My local government will need it since all their systems run on licensed software 🥲
I’d also get my hands on a bunch of iphone and android jailbreaks, because phone OSes might just stop working in 9 months if they’re left unmodified.
emulators, keep gaming alive
I keep a raspberry pi dedicated just to have NES/SNES/etc emulators via the “retropie” distro. I have thousands of ROMs that I can plug into any TV with HDMI and SNES/NES USB controllers for it. $100 for a full raspi kit to have full access to anything just by copying some files over to a microsd card. Can’t remember controller cost but that’s kind of a given requirement.
Keeping the electricity on long enough to enjoy games or movies is gonna be difficult if you rely on the grid right now.
So maybe archive the electronics stack exchange, and solar/battery installation guides so you can steal it if the neighbors roof.
If internet shuts down you’ll have trouble keeping your life long enough to enjoy this.
I know it’s a fun hypothetical but without internet wed be falling into an immediate collapse which we might recover from but many wouldn’t make it.
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Don’t you like a little apocalypse tease? We’re kinda into that it seems
“I hate fun and having conversations with people”
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I don’t use Web apps/software to begin with, explicitly because I don’t live under the illusion that everything will somehow exists forever, exactly the way it is.
I’ve been homeless, so I know how it is to be an artist without being online all the time. If the tool you use needs to be always online for some reason (and it’s not specifically related to the Internet), it’s a bad and useless tool.
It’s the reason I’m not jumping on the Photopea train until they release a proper installable program.
All Debian and its packages. Probably a bunch of Meshtastic stuff. And a copy of Wikipedia.
