A Colombian national is facing up to 20 years in prison after allegedly breaking an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officer’s nose during an attempted arrest in Roselle, New Jersey back in February during an enforcement operation.
The 27-year-old man, identified as Hector Villegas-Alvarez, was approached by ICE agents who had determined he was unlawfully present in the United States and subject to deportation.
According to an official statement by the New Jersey Attorney’s Office, Villegas-Alvarez exited his vehicle when ordered to do so but physically resisted arrest, locking his arms and tensing his body when officers attempted to apply handcuffs.
given how many protected, legal residents, and outright citizens ICE has already picked up without care or concern… I would argue ICE determinations are woefully and legally inadequate for any action, and thus violent resistance to abduction is not only the natural, moral reaction… its the legal one.
This is the message everyone is understanding, especially if you’re poor and desperate.
If immigration officials approach you … you’re basically fighting for your life, so do everything to break free, run, and get away. Because if you don’t, your life is over anyway.
if you try to haul someone away, in America, with the intent of deporting that someone to an extrajudicial foreign hellhole for the rest of their lives, you should count yourself incredibly lucky you simply had to take them kicking and screaming.
Are you mentioning this because of gun ownership in the U.S.? Not many people carry guns every day. Even if they do, they’re not likely to draw their five-shot .38 special against a group of ICE agents in body armor.
I know most people don’t carry guns every day. My hope is that this changes and ICE has to fear a Ruby Ridge with every door they knock on, a North Hollywood shootout with every car they stop. You aren’t going to stop them taking you with kind words. Make them kill you in the street, don’t go shuffling off quietly.
Who are these ICE agents anyway? Asking as a foreigner. Do they have the same authority as police? Are they police? If you refuse or stop them is that obstruction of justice/resisting?
Yes, they are federal police with broader authority because they enforce immigration policy. Just like immigration officers in any other country when you go through an airport. Anywhere within 100 miles of a port of entry (airports, boarders, ports) they can search and detain people. They started hiring double the amount of officers the day Trump won. Most of these people doing this crap are probably fresh recruits who got kicked out of police departments or coudn’t get hired in the first place. Basically party loyalists aka brownshirts.
So they are probably mostly people who hate immigrant/colored people and want to be able to do so professionally?
Always have been, but much less professional candidates now than before. They also do customs inspections for packages, containers, trucks, etc. Those people are probably just in it for a job, since they’re checking for drugs and other contraband.
They are technically “police”, but they get to do away with all the boring things that police normally have to do.
Some of them still work at the border doing customs work. Others are now fully dedicated to arresting and deporting people whose residency status is not OK.
Piggies have a weak spot on their noses. Got it.
What I am reading is “Undocumented Immigrant manages to escape a lack of due process by simply throwing fists.”
escape?
He’s now in the court system for assaulting an officer, instead of being spirited away to ICE detention and deported without ever seeing a judge.
I mean his ICE issues don’t go away. He could spend 20 years in jail and THEN get deported.
Under (maybe) a different President. With a chance he’d end up safely back in his own country, not a Salvadoran death camp. I’d roll the dice.
20 years from now? I think the “maybe” is unnecessary regardless of whether the US ever has free elections again.
The good die young. The evil live long cruel lives.
Huh…
“I can tell you,” my colleague went on, “of a man in Leipzig, a judge. He was not a Nazi, except nominally, but he certainly wasn’t an anti-Nazi. He was just-a judge. In '42 or '43, early '43, I think it was, a Jew was tried before him in a case involving, but only incidentally, relations with an ‘Aryan’ woman. This was ‘race injury,’ something the Party was especially anxious to punish. In the case at bar, however, the judge had the power to convict the man of a ‘nonracial’ offense and send him to an ordinary prison for a very long term, thus saving him from Party ‘processing’ which would have meant concentration camp or, more probably, deportation and death. But the man was innocent of the ‘nonracial’ charge, in the judge’s opinion, and so, as an honorable judge, he acquitted him. Of course, the Party seized the Jew as soon as he left the courtroom.”
-They thought they were free, the Germans 1933-45 by Milton Mayer, 1955
The existence of two parallel systems of criminal “justice,” where one blatantly acts at the whims of a maniacal regime, is definitely a sign of stability and freedom. Probably.
Anyone sent to El Salvador is never leaving according to their president. It’s surprising it took so long for the people being taken to figure out.
They are going to be thrown in a prison and forgotten about regardless. What’s the threat of a few years of jail for fighting back when they won’t see the light of day if they submit anyway.
May as well go down swinging.
He gets to stay in the US, at least 🤷
And as terrible as for-profit American prisons are, it’s better than CECOT.
These ICE motherfuckers are running around wearing balaclavas and body armor. They show no paperwork and are aggressive to no end. They’re basically glorified bounty hunters. There should be no repercussions for violence against them when they initiate it. I’d fuck one up as best as I could too. If they’re handing out 20 year sentences for that, I may as well shoot to kill.
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They are terrorists and human trafficers not bounty hunters.
Is it an arrest if there’s no due process though? Honest question. What are they arresting him for that would ever see trial? What crime was he even claimed of committing for an arrest?
Because if there’s no trial, then there’s no due process. Andnif there’s no due process, then it’s not an arrest, it’s a kidnapping.
In which case he should be punching those fucks in the face.
Yep, if there is no due process (making this a kidnapping), then this becomes valid self-defense.
Taking a different viewpoint, is general kidnapping now legal in the US? Why is ICE different?
the correct word is a snout
They are scared and think that harsh sentences will prevent them from getting their deserved punishments.
Good for him, fuck these people. Not so good for him. Is the jail time. But what’s the difference at this point?
Probably won’t be tortured here. Might be pardoned by the next administration if his story gets enough publicity and his family can keep the attention on him.
Assuming there is a next administration
Is this a life hack to avoid CECOT and rot a US jail instead?
Supremacists hate this one trick
Damn if that’s the punishment for hurting their poor little nosies might as well kill them.
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I dont think they realize this but straight up if its life in prison or prison camps no matter what might as well curbstomp anyone trying to kidnap you instead of going peacefully, there is no benefit to peaceful resistance, you’re fucked eitherway
Or they do, and they’ll use it as an excuse to take even more freedom asay
They’ll make any excuse to keep pushing no matter what we do
Resist
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I’m disappointed the pig wasn’t shot in the face.
Except that then Hector would be facing murder charges.
He’s already facing death, so what’s the difference?
I would’ve done the same thing. When death camps are on the table, you fight as hard as you can.
