They should be concerned about the dictator problem they have at home.
Russia
Ms-13 hasn’t made it to the White House
Russia has
Sad but true
Russia.
the forces task with each risk are entirely separate. the states should police for internal gang activity. the feds should be fucking freaked out over russia just deciding to invade other soverieng nations for zero reason.
but that was back when the united states had a functioning government. those days are long gone.
The reason Russia invaded is because Zelenski wasn’t supposed to win the election and they want their puppets running Ukraine again.
I’m going to go with option C, the Trump regime… We need to be more worried about them and how they ate dismantling our democracy.
That’s a joke right? MS-13 isn’t trying to invade Ukraine.
Not a joke, apparently, read the other comments.
Okay, I read them. What’s your point? What are your intentions? Put me down for Russia ig.
Point is some people take the threat of MS-13 way too seriously.
I’m more worried about never being able to own a home or never being able to support myself. I’m more worried that i’ll never learn another language then I am some street gang I have never seen.
Because you don’t engage with right wing media like these sick fucks. If you read the shit they are being fed you realize if these same people found jack and the bean stalk in the nonfiction section they would put a nation wide ban on beans.
They also infiltrate left wing circles. They can be pretty clever. Not to sound paranoid but I’ve seen them on Lemmy. People convinced that Ukraine is some sort of Nazi state that Russia is justified in invading. Nevermind all the Nazi groups in Russia and abroad that are funded by Russia. Call this shit out when you see it. Try to deprogram them if you can I guess. They probably have to see it for themselves though.
Those people are also saying “Palestine bad” cause of reasons and using it to justify Israel’s genocide or “China bad” like their own nation isn’t doing the exact same thing.
It’s an artificial crisis planned by the trump admin years ago
https://apnews.com/general-news-international-news-88ba0f2a51b35bf8195e886d4210e5c3
Some people think Trump is good, too.
They’re cultists.
Trump, GOP, MAGA > Russia > China > MS-13
You forgot israel (AIPAC)
Threats to the US
A lapdog isn’t a threat except to reputation, even if they’re not on your side. Same reason North Korea isn’t on the list of threats.
Even if they have influence, it’s not exactly domestic policy, otherwise you’d have to add the IRA to the list also.
Israel is deporting American students for excersizing their free speech.
Israel has more influence than the first amendent.
Israel is definitely an existential threat to the United States. They are trying their best to get us involved in multiple wars.
They also have congress and the presidency bought.
We are basically funding the genocide they are committing. Meanwhile, Israel has universal health care and lots of other social safety nets that American citizens do not.
Ah this point?
You’re own bloody country
Red Scare or “duh ill-e-gulls”
Red scare was about communism.
Depends on context. If the context is “planning a holiday in El Salvador”, maybe MS-13 is relevant. Beyond being worried about impact on others’ lives, MS-13 is largely irrelevant to Americans and most people that I’ve encountered never heard of them before 2016.
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I’m not sure what you’re getting at. That article says in multiple places, and even implies it with the scare quotes in the title, that they didn’t find a bunch of gang members in that complex. So what exactly are you trying to say?
Here’s a few quotes from that article:
Aurora Police Department Interim Chief Heather Morris said in a statement on Friday that “gang members have not taken over” the complex.
“I’m not saying that there aren’t gang members that don’t live in this community,” Morris said. “But what we’re learning out here is that gang members have not taken over this complex.”
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Morris stated that the local authorities have “really made an effort” in recent days to ask specific questions about gang activity in the area and at the complex.
“Making sure that people aren’t paying rent to gang leaders or gang members,” she said.
According to Morris, the residents they’ve spoken with have assured them that this isn’t happening, and she believes they are being honest.
“We’re standing out here, and I can tell you that gang members have not taken over this complex.”
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Just curious but have you looked into that story on the Aurora apartment complex past the reactionary headlines you’re cherry picking? It’s way more nuanced and has little to do with gangs. I kind of find it funny that you decided to backtrack with a different article because you didn’t even read the first one you posted.
As for some nypost gibberish, I don’t care to read it. It’s obvious you’re a reactionary and have an agenda. The “immigrant problem” is a racist nationalistic bullhorn, and I suspect you fall into that crowd. Unless of course you support returning the US to the people that aren’t immigrant ancestors? Perhaps we could find some common ground there.
One of them is a heavily armed criminal gang which operates locally and engages in violent crime, murder, and human trafficking, the other is somewhere on the other side of the world and currently fairly busy expending massive amounts of military resources trying to occupy a few provinces of a neighboring country.
This feels like asking if you should be more worried about domestic rattlesnakes or lions in Africa.
So your position is russia raises no threat to America. I’ll write that one down.
No, that is not what he said at all.
Tell me how lions in Africa are a threat to Americans
Oh, fuck off.
What. Logic escapes you all the sudden?
I wouldn’t say none whatsoever, but comparatively little. They’re already engaged in a fairly high stakes military operation costing them massive amounts of resources and manpower every year and constantly teetering on the edge of triggering a NATO involvement. Yeah they have nukes, but if they really wanted an all-out war, don’t you think they would have dropped one already?
I’d say chances are very low. First of all, the US likely has a capable early warning system and the ability to intercept a nuclear warhead in-flight, and second, the potential retaliation would likely be horrifying and not worth the risk. Worrying about armed criminal gang members who are already in the country seems to be a lot more sensible to me because they pose a more immediate threat.
I firmly believe, and the evidence supports, Russia has deployed a widespread disinformation campaign against America and has infiltrated the highest levels of government.
Do you have any evidence for that belief?
Before we do all that you tell me what sources you will accept.
Hard evidence, preferably. I’m not interested in hearsay or conspiracy theories. There’s enough of that out there already.
So, it’s about time you read it then.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/18/politics/full-mueller-report-pdf/index.html
It’s cute that you think they’re all on the other side of the world. You must feel very safe.
I envy you.
I haven’t heard of any armed, violent Russian criminal gangs operating on US territory in recent years, so yeah, I’m less worried about them than the ones that are known to operate here.
Just wait…
Okay. I’ll check back in when the Russians are at my door.
See, it’s funny because you think that everyone sharing this is insinuating that Russia’s army is here. Or that it’s being implied that they’re here en masse in any conceivable way.
No one is saying this-
But if you think the White House isn’t compromised, I’ve got a bridge to sell you if you’ve got the рубль.
That may be the case, but what immediate danger does that pose to me? I’d be more worried about armed gangs in my neighborhood than spooks in Washington, because the former would likely pose a more immediate threat to my life than the latter.
How does it affect you? If a neighbour who doesn’t like you can just call the police, tell them you’re in a gang, and get you deported without due process that will absolutely affect you.
PS the world is in this state because of unempathetic people like you.
The spooks in Washington will soon be controlling the armed gangs in your neighborhood. Only those gangs will have an American flag on their sleeve.
I have a feeling that line between the former and the later will blur much faster than you think.
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Gangs are bad. Thing is, you don’t fight gangs with military you fight them with relief. Gangs thrive on hurt people and the people who are suffering. If you relieve the hurt and suffering poverty causes you destroy the gangs ability to recruit.
Trump
Then Russia. Thats where the ACTUAL voter interference comes from.
The US has threatened Russia for last 80 years. At increased levels in last 20 years. Forcing Russia to defend itself in last 3 years has made it stronger. There is absolute blowback danger from Russia, that can extend to nuclear destruction, but it as fully self inflicted as going around zoinking Grizzly bears’ tails. Foreign national threats to US are entirely the result of US evil, and US desperation is making it worse.
Ah yes. You must be the common clay of the new west.
Israel.
The death toll from Israel supporting Americans exponentially dwarfs the number of Americans harmed by MS-13.
