Honestly, now that we’re literally sending people to concentration camps, I have zero fucks to give about this superficial bullshit. No one gives a shit about what Hitler wore at the '36 Olympics, and no one’s gonna care what this asshole wore to a funeral.
It’s purely to be on the attack. Republicans showed for the last fifteen years if you’re performatively aggressive against the opposition eventually you get what you want.
You don’t have to hate Trump or his suit color. Just love democracy and socialism and the working class. If this gets some apolitical conservative people to not vote for the Republicans then awesome.
The thing was that they resorted to the tan suit and terrorist first bump bullshit because Obama gave them so little to work with. For Trump you didn’t need to waste everyone’s time when his administration is ignoring court orders, arresting judges, declaring warrants and due process unnecessary, and tanking the economy.
The tan suit stuff may have helped energize the base by preaching to the choir, but everyone else found it ridiculous and made them skeptical of conservative media. When you are inundated nearly daily with real terrible stuff, no need to undermine credibility by latching into this sort of fluff.
but everyone else found it ridiculous and made them skeptical of conservative media.
I found it ridiculous too and it made me very skeptical of conservative media. I wasn’t the target audience. And with this blue suit attack line, I’m not the target audience either. It’s not for me or most of the people on social media delivering the sound bite. Like the tan suit controversy before it, it’s for conservatives.
When you are inundated nearly daily with real terrible stuff, boo need to undermine credibility by latching into this sort of fluff.
Conservatives either don’t believe, don’t care, or like that terrible stuff. We should boo that too, and continue to cover it, but we need to take the short amount of time it takes to knock the fluff out of the park. Our issue hasn’t been making fun of Trump for the wrong things, it’s not making fun of him enough. We haven’t been aggressive enough and Democratic politicians definitely haven’t been aggressive enough.
I bought into Jon Stewart’s line that we need to focus on more substantive criticisms. Then in it turned out Trump voters like him because of the economy and the price of eggs? No, we needed to make MAGA’s ‘strongman’ look weak in the eyes of his supporters. Septimaeus covered this concept comprehensively so review that comment if you haven’t already.
If all we talk about is fluff that would be a mistake, but refusing to engage with the fluff at all is also a mistake.
I corrected my typo, it was supposed to be no need.
Talking about him falling asleep can undermine his undeserved tough guy image, I don’t think mocking his blue suit does anything but make it look like we are grasping at straws.
We still need to do the more substantive arguments for our positions, such as progressive and socialist positions, and refutations of neoliberal and fascist positions. But once the sound-bite reaches saturation in the population it will, in theory anyway, have done the desired damage.
To some conservative people, a man not wearing a black suit to a funeral is effectively taboo. It effectively is to some of the users, without respect to their political positions, in this comment section apparently. It’s something some of his voters will have to rationalize to defend him. If we do enough of these trivial ad hominem attacks eventually some people will be less motivated to vote Republican.
People who do not care about suit color will considered this topic to be a trivial non-issue and move on with their day. They aren’t the target audience. And the people who do care will be really bothered by it. What bothers a person is different for everyone. People probably should be bothered by the more serious life or death stuff, but not everyone is. To some people climate change is a trivial non-issue and by talking about that we’re grasping at straws according to them.
I agree, and once would have dismissed the sociopolitical pragmatism described by the commenter above as “lowering our discourse to their level” or something of the sort.
I eventually realized that this instinctive criticism was valid only if they were still growing as people, and capable of more than what they are now. The assumption is that setting higher expectations might convince them to “elevate their discourse” if only to save face.
But what I’ve come to realize is that this was far too much to expect. By all the evidence available to date, these folks never advanced far beyond the emotional maturity of the average middle schooler. At this level of maturity, superficial and public humiliation is quite literally the most serious attack, as it bloodies waters presumed to be infested with sharks.
Yes it’s pathetic, and yes “stooping to their level” feels gross, but Republican voters are only enthused by policies which benefit them directly or hurt others they feel deserve it. Perceived power matters a lot to them, and seems to be attached to explicit expressions of it that are similarly pathetic— as in, truck nuts, “I am very smart,” “I have a great brain and concepts of a plan,” etc.
So public humiliation of trump for an otherwise petty and irrelevant issue (especially by someone he can’t touch without losing a chunk of his base) absolutely succeeds in making him look weak, and making Trump look weak is directly correlated with his voters’ loss of motivation to vote (see RWA personality type/disorder; it’s fascinating).
Enough of these successful offensives will cause his most die-hard voters to lose faith in him (caveat: to seek out somebody stronger) so to de-motivate a current right-wing conservative voter, likely we must accept that petty “mean girl” tactics are the only language they understand, due to their arrested emotional development, and robbing them of their “strongman” is both easy and effective. Ridicule the emperor with no clothes and his voters, who are themselves unclothed, might go home and rethink their fashion statement.
TLDR: It sucks but crass pragmatism may be warranted in this case. The first language of Trump voters is small-mindedness, and it’s often the only one they understand, so we might consider rolling our sleeves up and speaking it if only so future generations don’t have to.
Edit: corrected swype errors.
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Only poor people wear black suits (he thinks to himself).
Remember when Obama rocked that tan suit yall?
“But the blue suit is MY BRAND!”
Because of Trump the world thinks us a fool.
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This is the sort of news that does nothing but bring attention away from real problems. Blame these idiots for being a bunch of liars and criminals (including the pope) not for wearing the wrong suit color.
Exactly, and every other post is like that.
Look what stupid thing Musk or Trump did!
Boring and annoying.
Petty libs venting their frustrations online while doing nothing IRL
This whole thing is stupid.
This guy is not the president of the United States.
No, he’s the future King of England, and also, like Trump, not a Catholic, there’s a link here.
Apparently the dress code is dark suit + black tie. So this is fine. Trump’s tie was blue
Joe Biden, however, is a Catholic
Just one in my lifetime I wanna see the rapists, the convicted felons, the wannabe gangsters elected to office, the people linked to Jeffrey Epstein, the presidents who put personal interest before country, the tactless lying connen grifters and the orange buffoons leave this plane before the good men with some semblance of balance, tolerance, moderation and compassion.
Just once in my lifetime.
At least kissinger finally kicked it
Funerals are for the family. Not the dead person. You won’t care because you’re dead, I’m sure his close friends and relatives cared quite a bit.
When I die I won’t give a single fuck what people who go to my funeral wear.
I’m not defending the guy. I’m just accusing the church of being the other side. Assholes on both sides. I hope my exercised freedom of speech doesn’t ruffle feathers. I don’t have a suit myself.
I remember when John Paul died and we got Ratzinger Z who was promptly removed for sexual stuff. So I might live to see 4 popes! What a time to be alive! 4 popes. Most people I know are also 3 popes old and pushing for 4.
Funerals are not for the dead, they’re for the living experiencing grief in the wake of a loss.
Yeah, so I sure as fuck don’t want people telling anyone nice enough to come to my funeral that they wore the wrong color suit. Make fun of Trump and the fascists whose voters hopefully will be as annoyed at this. But don’t trouble the rest of us about it.
How did he even get an invite?
Probably paid for it, like his Nobel nomination.
Excuse me what nomination?
Google: trump nobel japan
Arrest him
Well he’s finally being held to the same standards as Obama
Wdym? Obama pulled it off. Trump just looks tired. And angry. But more tired.