Firefox Finally Did It
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Thousands of users wanted it, so Firefox delivered it. Tab Groups are now live to help you declutter and stay organized while browsing.

Thousands of users wanted it, so Firefox delivered it. Tab Groups are now live to help you declutter and stay organized while browsing.

    • Vincent@feddit.nl
      20·
      3 months ago

      By now you would’ve expected someone to have pointed out what code is actually collecting that data that’s supposedly sold.

      • IncogCyberspaceUser@lemmy.world
        5·
        3 months ago

        Yeah, it still seems like an overreaction(with good intentions) to a poorly communicated change, which, yes, might mean they’ll do it in the future. But for now, they have the benefit of the doubt from me, and once it starts happening, I’ll move to a fork.
        That being said, I don’t know anything about the code, so I have to count on the community to make it known that it’s actually been implemented.
        For now, as far as I understand, the only indication that they’re even considering it, is that change in the ToS or whatever. Nothing else to suggest it’s happening.

        • ashughes@feddit.uk
          2·
          3 months ago

          I’d agree that it’s overblown and I suspect this reaction comes from users not understanding the complex legal framework Mozilla operates in globally and regionally, and Mozilla doing what it does best, miscommunication.

          IANAL but my interpretation of the situation is that in certain jurisdictions, California for example (where Mozilla is headquartered and where they have a legally binding contract in place with Google), they are and always have been “selling” your data from a LEGAL standpoint. It is a difference between how we users define selling (a literal exchange of data for money) versus how the law defines selling which can be much more broad and include things we wouldn’t define as selling.

          As far as the law is concerned, again, in some but not all jurisdictions, a) all data has monetary value to tech companies, and b) with Mozilla & Google in particular there is a monetary exchange (ie. a contract worth millions of dollars) for Google Search being integrated into Firefox as the default.

          Therefore, as far as the law is concerned, when you type into the Awesomebar or search box in Firefox, Firefox sends (sells) the data you entered (your data) to Google (because of course it does, that’s how the internet works) and this is a “sale of your data” under the legal definition. This is just one example from one jurisdiction Mozilla operates within, albeit a majorly influential and litigious jurisdiction.

          My understanding is they had to make that their terms of use because if they didn’t they’d be liable to get sued into oblivion in jurisdictions where using a web browser to browse the internet constituted a legal sale.

          Does this open the door to abuse and the literal sale of our data in the future, absolutely. But it’s on us to trust but verify, and do what we, the community, do best and hold Mozilla to account when they inevitably screw up.

          Anyway, this was a much longer comment than I intended to write, but that’s my take as a someone who has not just used Mozilla products for decades but also contributed labour as well.

    • muhyb@programming.dev
      8·
      3 months ago

      Why this would be a reason? Librewolf will have tab groups too. They don’t change the main structure, they just harden Firefox.

        • muhyb@programming.dev
          5·
          3 months ago

          Oh, you mean you were waiting for tab groups. Sorry, without enough context I thought you were telling one of those bullshit reasons people use against Firefox. Well then, see you with Librewolf soon.

  • Pope-King Joe@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    3 months ago

    This is super neat, but I swapped to Floorp awhile back because I like the workspaces feature.

    Super happy for folks who wanted this built-in tho.

    • univers3man@lemmy.world
      2·
      3 months ago

      I really liked Floorp, but it kept breaking on work sites, so I had to switch back to FF. Super glad they are bringing this back.

  • r.EndTimes@lemm.eeEnglish
    1·
    3 months ago

    Might switch back, use vivaldi for workspaces, I switched because it synced across devices but I never use that feature I just end up retyping everything if I need to open something.

    • thingsiplay@beehaw.org
      21·
      3 months ago

      If its called smart and uses Ai, then its advanced. We need Ai for renaming groups of tabs.

    • smeg@feddit.ukEnglish
      7·
      3 months ago

      The prototype scans open tabs locally, suggests topical names, and auto-bundles related pages. Because all processing happens on the user’s computer, the company says, neither raw content nor behavioral signals are uploaded to the cloud.

      “AI” is just a buzzword, this isn’t chatbot nonsense as far as I can tell.

    • mitram2@lemm.ee
      14·
      3 months ago

      The AI is local, privacy respecting and optional to use, but I agree a config option to hide the button would be nice

      Edit: Apparently you can disable the feature

  • om1k@sopuli.xyz
    101·
    3 months ago

    Ever since i switched to zen browser i hace not thought of coming back for a second.

    • UnfairUtan@lemmy.world
      81·
      3 months ago

      Yea Zen is amazing, especially the neat Workspaces feature.

      I’m still going back to Firefox because of tab groups.

  • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@reddthat.com
    8·
    3 months ago

    The lack of groups was the deal breaker for me, so after it rolled out to beta, I finally switched back to Firefox as my primary browser.

    Last I tried, I don’t think you could reorder or drag/drop groups and selecting multiple tabs doesn’t result in “group tabs” in the context menu, but it is still decent enough.

  • thatradomguy@lemmy.world
    35·
    3 months ago

    After everybody else yeah… woopie fkn doo. I say this as a LibreWolf user and using Firefox on alt PC.

    • phantomwise@lemmy.mlEnglish
      121·
      3 months ago

      Don’t worry they say they’ll shove AI in it so it’s definitely our world