Not now
This is literally the worst possible time for it to happen. If you think global trade and prices are fucked right now then just you wait.
Red counties first.
How to prepare for this shit again? I guess I can start by storing some masks, and a lot more food.
Any advice or thoughts? I can work from home fulltime, and grocery deliveries is possible.
Going to post this as a main comment but two things are true
- the case mortality rate is, by far, one of the worst we’ve ever seen for an influenza. https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/wpro---documents/emergency/surveillance/avian-influenza/ai_20250131.pdf
- we already have a vaccine for it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H5N1_vaccine
- don’t panic but be educated https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5CyVi4UzKxE
Thanks, that mortality rate is frighteningly high. Luckily no human to human transmission so far. Hopefully never.
Might be good to have some personal protective equipment in my emergency toolkit, as people would probably go instantly nuts for that if there is a breakout of human to human transmission.
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I wish I was stronger in this regard. Will make and a eat a vegetarian dinner today though.
That’s not possible for all of us. I have dietary issues and food allergies that keep me on a strict diet. Animal protein (and even the type is limited) is the only source of main protein I can eat regularly without getting sick. Shit like this scares me because I’m afraid I could literally end up starving to death if all the birds and fish die.
What are your dietary issues and food allergies?
I have IBS/GERD and the food allergies aren’t actually limiting (it’s only two things). The combo of IBS & GERD limit what I can eat in general, and vegetarian or vegan sources of protein must be eaten in very small amounts seldomly or I simply cannot eat them at all. I am unable to eat even wheat/seitan or soy or dairy. Seldom can I eat beans/lentil/nuts/seeds.
My recommendation is to honestly just do what we did during covid. The government likely won’t be enforcing anything this time so we’re probably gonna be on our own. Also I recommend stocking up on things asap. We’re already having supply chain issues and it’s gonna get infinitely worse if or when this pops off.
I live in Norway, so the government will do everything in it’s power to protect its citizens probably. Like it did during COVID.
Theres no supply chain issues here currently either. During COVID pretty much everything was available besides acceptably priced GPUs
Ah I’m American so I’m probably just gonna die lol
If you get the flu just attend the next Trump rally you can find and cough as much as possible
Typhoid Mary 2: MAGA Boogaloo
Honestly that’s a good idea
I think so. Spit on your hands and touch all the door handles you can find. Introduce yourself with a handshake to everyone you encounter. Buy a MAGA hat and see if you can get a picture or something with Trump. Turn yourself into a full on bio weapon that exclusively targets fascists.
I’m gonna become a carrier from left 4 dead. I’ll show no symptoms but I’ll get everyone around me infected
Ethically, I hate it. Realistically, the pandemic largely happened in the US because it was used as biological warfare against the populace, hoping that it would stay in blue areas and, turnabout is fair play.
The best thing to prepare is to not be fearful and to not panic.
I suggest that everybody protest against factory farming and participate in boycotts. Call lawmakers and regulators to take direct action against these companies and their dangerous practices (and hold them responsible).
If you pitch it as a wall around the farms, that the farms will pay for. You might have a shot.
Only if you claim that the farms are all filled with brown people.
Can’t wait for the “that’s gay and fake” crowd to act like nothing is happening and if it is it’s Klaus Schwab’s fault.
I just hope it kills a lot more Nazi antivax idiots this time
Hopefully it kills the uber-privileged carnists responsible for all of this death and disease.
I doubt it will they all have doomsday bunkers. I do hope that they are forced to cower in them for the rest of their days though……because guillotine
Carnist? This is why we lose.
being able to be vegan/vegetarian is a privilege. it’s expensive as hell for starters. you can eat meat and still want change in the meat industry.
Not to mention there are people who physically have to eat meat. I have anemia due to stage 4 endometriosis. I can’t take iron supplements so have to eat meat or I get very sick.
There will probably be some slant in that direction, but there’ll be a much bigger slant towards killing the elderly, the immunocompromised, those who can’t afford medical care and time off, etc. As usual.
As terrible as it feels to say with the way elderly people vote they more often than not fall into the nazi camp. I know my gandad does with fox constantly playing.
Unfortunately, it’s the rich that are feeding them the garbage that’s infested their minds. I don’t think there’s any saving the masses from the delusion they’re slobbering up, but as long as the buffet keeps getting restocked, the pigs will keep fattening up for the slaughter.
Don’t worry, I’m sure Trump and his cultists will fuck this one up for us too.
I look forward to our next pandemic…
Maybe Trump’s narcissism will work in our favor this time. He’s been impeached twice, among other things. Does he also want to go down in history as the president who exacerbated TWO pandemics?
BINGO!!! what did I win?
Chicken dinner
A cookie
- the case mortality rate is, by far, one of the worst we’ve ever seen for an influenza. https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/wpro---documents/emergency/surveillance/avian-influenza/ai_20250131.pdf
- we already have a vaccine for it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H5N1_vaccine
- don’t panic but be educated https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5CyVi4UzKxE
Having a vaccine, and getting it sufficiently wide deployed under a known antivaxxer “health” minister are two different kinds of shoes.
And: The virus is currently trying to overcome species barriers, which might reduce an existing vaccine less useful. AFAIK you need a different vaccine for poultry than for cows, and some infections have made it across to humans, also AFAIK, from cows.
getting it sufficiently wide deployed under a known antivaxxer “health” minister
Not to mention that the asshole in the WH would absolutely weaponize this against blue states and would try to enrich HIMSELF in the process. We know, because that’s what he did during Covid. That’s just how fucking depraved he is.
They initially thought that Covid was killing more of the Blahs…and they of course loved that idea.
Once it takes hold in swine, it’s party time!
If only we had some technology that could replicate the mRna or DNA as things changed to get an updated vaccine out quicker.
Too bad that didn’t work out, killed billions of people, and is now being banned for how awful it was.
that didn’t work out, killed billions of people, and is now being banned for how awful it was.
I’m out of the loop, what was banned?
I don’t know if any of them have actually gone through the whole process yet, but multiple states are trying to ban mrna vaccines
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-ban-mrna-vaccines-passes-140200324.html
we already have a vaccine for it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H5N1_vaccine
Gonna be illegal in the USA
Is there is a functional vaccine for it then I want it ASAP.
In the U.S., RFK has promised to personally consume every dead bird he finds on the side of the road.
I knew there had to be at least one positive trait.
He actually does have one positive trait: he’s open to the idea of psychedelics for the treatment of mental health disorders. Past administrations have had way too much love for the Nixon-era “War on Drugs” DEA schedule, which treats magic mushrooms as more dangerous than fentanyl. It doesn’t make up for all the other damage he’s doing, and even this one thing he probably won’t handle in an appropriate way, since he’s also, y’know, incompetent. But it’s conceivable that this one thing could move in a good direction despite his leadership.
Great point and something that I support. Psychedelics have been known to provide psychological therapy for a while and I’ll take any gains in that area.
Thankful JD was only into couches
That happened before bird flu was announced tho
How does this site charge $29/month for a subscription? That’s insane!
They need to justify their name
Donald and HHS: A1 said fake news. This is Obama’s fault.
There isn’t going to be another pandemic this soon after COVID. Pandemics happen about every 100 years. Pretty much everything happens in cycles and is predictable based on historical patterns. There isn’t going to be another pandemic this soon after COVID.
Last time was a red 9, there’s not going to be another red 9 for 36 more spins.
This is not how probability works.
We’ve had once in a century economic problems thrice in less than 30 years, STFU
That’s not how shit works dumbass
This Week in Virology talks a bit about this at the 10min mark TWiV 1214: Clinical update with Dr. Daniel Griffin
Episode webpage: https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-1214/
Media file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/twiv/TWiV1214.mp3?dest-id=25528
Also worth bookmarking the CDC summary… For as long as it’s up. https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/index.html
I’m all for trash talking the circus of Trump and RFK, and anti-vaccers, but anyone doing so while still eating animal products is a hypocrite.
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People love to take moral stances / talk about sacrificing for the greater good, until their behaviour has to change.
The fucknut RFK will tell the AmeriKans to drink fish tank cleaner or bleach and shove a UV light down their throats. When this things slams into the USA, Krasnov will continue to fail.
I’m ok with this.
We’ve known about vaccines, germ theory, and virus for quite some time now. If they want to kill themselves because they choose to not follow the science, so be it. I’m tired of having this conversation with the wilfully and proudly ignorant tomato soup brained infants.
+1…Indeed!
So, you’re okay with a whole bunch of people who have no problem with vaccines die because they live next to anti-vaxxers?
Wow, so noble. You really are a moral person and not some idiot wanking your anger boner on the internet.
Ideally those who have the vaccine would be protected from the contagion that might come from the anti-vax next door.
I’m very worried for those who are Immunocompromised or those that can not get the vaccine for whatever reason. When the next plague comes, these are the people I will be supporting and trying to help.
I think what you fail to understand is many of us spent unlimited hours trying to explain vaccines, masks, washing hands, social distancing, etc to these people during covid and all it did was get them to double down on their anti-social behaviour. I even had a few spit at me.
So yeah, fuck these asshole cunts. They put all of us in danger.
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Shut up
Get down off your high horse. There are people who physically have to eat meat. Btw if you have to take supplements because your diet doesn’t contain enough nutrients, your diet is bad.
Let me try to engage with the last point rationally.
Yes, of course, Vegans take supplements. At least B12 is a required.
I personally don’t think that makes it a “bad” diet.
From my perspective, it is the morally correct way of living, for many reasons, one of them beeing that it causes the least amount of suffering for sentient beeing.
The point you are making (and correct me if I am wrong) is that taking supplements means it’s not a natural way of eating, hence the need for supplements.
I agree. It is not.
But there are plenty of things that are natural for us, but we have decided that they are morally bad and hence should not be practiced. Violence, for example, is so natural in humans that even after thousands of years of civilisation we still require laws to regulate or punish it, alongside “outlets” for our violence (like Marital Arts or Video Games). I am sure you can think of other things that are natural to humans, but are considered immoral.
Eating animals is, in my opinion, just the next step in that line. It’s something that was needed once but is not any longer, at least for the vast majority of people (as you hinted at in the first half of your comment).
this whole “valuing specific humans are inherently inferior to others and can’t be saved” business reminds me of something…
Misinformation is what you wanna target, not the victims
How long do you personally choose to argue with a flat earther?
The evidence is there. The math isn’t that hard and they can do it themselves to prove a round earth. There are a few simple experiments they can do to prove it. They consciously choose to ignore everything and believe something provably incorrect.
If someone is mentally deficient, or had a learning disability, that’s one thing. I’m not talking about these people. I’m talking about the flat earther type (or anti-vax, or tribalism MAGA nut) who chooses to go against simple science.
Media landscapes can be vastly different for different people, and if they’re surrounded by media “confirming” their conspiracies, they will choose to believe that rather than what “some random people” say
That is still no excuse.
RFK jr. Isn’t just anti-germ theory. He doesn’t even follow miasma theory… he follows something even older and more stupid: terrain theory. The idea that you get sick BECAUSE you were unhealthy and not the other way around. That diseases are opportunists looking for malnourished or lazy or weak individuals (weak by their own choices) than just something that can happen to anyone.
You know those girls who died of measles? He insisted it happened because they were malnourished. No amount of evidence presented by doctors could convince him otherwise.
Basically we have an absolutely insane conspiracy theorist who has the medical beliefs of a medieval quack in charge of US health.
Do you think libs are going to tell people to stop eating meat because it’s destroying the planet, breeding diseases, and of course least importantly (\s) torturing/murdering animals?
Never have. Never will. I’m sure chuck and nancy probably have stock in this shit.
Do you want people to eat less meat, or do you want to feel superior to people because you eat less meat? Because it feels like the latter from all your comments here.
Humans have been eating meat since the dawn of mankind. Get over it.
