And somehow every single time the problem was so easy to solve, but apparently crying about it is the better solution.

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    I’ve switched to Linux because at this point it’s easier to deal with problems on Linux than using Windows and getting it to usable state.

    And if something doesn’t run on Linux… I use something else, easy as that.

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    i tried linux once but there was one command that made me not want to use it anymore

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      TFM isn’t worth the R. It doesn’t describe failure states or bugs in a way that a normal user understands or can work with. Either it works perfectly, or there’s basically no way to figure out exactly what went wrong and how.

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        Sometimes I get confused with man pages and have to go on other sites with different explanations and examples. Maybe that’s just me

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          The man pages would be so much less dry if they just put a few examples at the top. But nope. So I continue to curl cht.sh/tar until the heat death of the universe

          Edit: autocorrect

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      The good old ways. I miss them.

      Nowadays, it’s more “User Manual? You mean the Manufacturer’s Opinion?”

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    Oké lets see how good crowd trouble shooting is…

    Nobara on Fedora can not have the exact same mouse being plugged in multible times. They seem to merge into one and all but one will be ignored (at random).

    Okey, without joking*. I have seen quite some people who are unable to Google anything. But I guess that’s why LMGTFY was made.

    [*] this is actually a bug, not a joke. If you happen to know the answer. Please share it, it’s driving me nuts

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      Not nobara related but I found a Linux Mint thread about using xinput to adjust config to have left handed mode enabled for 1 mouse but not another. Maybe that will help. If they’re wireless mice with dongles, maybe they’re struggling in that one mouse is connecting to both receivers? If they offer both bt and wifi pairing you might be able to get around it by manipulating that, or if they can be plugged in that might help.

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        My PC is connected to a TV and I steam to a diffrent room. So there is a mouse at the TV, at the couch, and in another room

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    So many times I see junior Devs (or not so juniors) and normies seeing an error message and, visibly, static plays between their ears on their mental TV set, then they just click the first button that looks appropriate and complain it didn’t work.

    The text of the message does not get read or parsed.

    “You need to close the program to continue”. Doesn’t work.

    “Unexpected X at line N” Doesn’t work.

    Drives me insane.

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      Unfortunately, so many error messages are so utterly useless that it has taught many people that all errors are just pointless background noise even if they’re actually giving useful info.

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        I mean, java and Microsoft errors are preceded by 120 characters of useless trash oftentimes, that is equally as infuriating.

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          Or Windows gives you a blue screen and just “BAD_POOL_HEADER”.

          I got that intermittently at work on an instrument about every week or two. The best answer I could find was “it could be software or hardware related”. Yeah, thanks for that, problem solved. Wish I had thought of that. Not even a time stamp. Finally found out when it occurred to within 20 minutes and there was jack shit in the logs.

          IT ended up calling in a service tech to re-image the computer.

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            Ah, windows logs, another amazing experience that doesn’t make me want to kill everyone.

            tail /var/log/thing.log is far too easy

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    Yeah? Try playing MYST VR with a quest 2 and Nvidia GPU.

    I love Linux, but sometimes I just wanna pin it against the wall and make violent love to it until my issue is fixed. Though usually the love making is more of a frustrating 6 hours of troubleshooting.

    BTW, are we allowed to sexualize an OS?

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      I had really bad performance with an nvidia GPU in VR in Linux, once, and all I could find that described the same specific issue I had was a steam community discussion post by someone who claimed that the steam vr compositor was just bugged, and no less that it was a bug regression, and there was nothing to do but wait for Valve to fix it. I think the post was already a year old when I found it.

      I haven’t tried it again, yet, but I’ve also moved to arch with Wayland since then. And the nvidia drivers did become much more reliable for me, so maybe it will magically work out of the box this time… Or maybe it won’t, and I’ll just end up wasting hours trying to find a solution while wading through AI polluted Google searches again before giving up.

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        This is honestly the only reason Linux is not my only OS. I have a laptop with an integrated and dedicated nvidia rtx3060 gpu, and Linux has trouble with the Nvidia drivers and I get stuttering in almost all games and 3d applications.

        I went into a discord specialised in lenovo Legion on linux, and even they couldn’t help me, though they were very helpful. My requirements aren’t even insane, I just want to slice files for my 3d printer without issues and play a 2d browser game from time to time.

        I’m still debugging it, it mug have to do with the power management firmware. But this is not ready for the mainstream consumer if its necessary to go this deep.

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    this is the way. the best way to get linux support is to claim something isnt there or working. instant flood of reply from nerds and adhs ppl… i am not advocating it, but OP is wrong…

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    I used to do some linux training for new hires at my old job. The company had a training room with a rack of servers for lab work.

    It was a training on how to deploy the product on a customer server. I personally wrote the instructions and tested them on the lab machines after a fresh install.

    I had others test the lab instructions. I even had people from non-tech roles verify that they too could do the labs by following the instructions.

    Still I get a guy in the training complaining that “this doesn’t work” and I can see from the error on his screen that he must have skipped one of the steps in the lab instructions.

    He’s not even trying to figure it out. Even though others are finishing, he just decided that it doesn’t work and gave up.

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        Yeah its a tough crowd sometimes. Especially when doing that training with our customers.

        I’ll never forget the time I was explainging how something worked and one of the customers interrupts me saying, “I don’t care about this – can you just show me where to click?”

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          I’ve done my share of training too. Some people just want recipes. They have no interest in knowing why they’re doing something.