oki i litrlli do nt kno whad thad means. whos a zionist n why wud … ergghhhh forget it—
Zionism is often defined as the belief that the state of Israel should exist. Zionists tend to have strong anti-Palestinian sentiments and support atrocities against them.
Zionists are people who support the ethnic state that is Israel. A large portion of Zionists are Christian Evangelicals from the US.
The vast majority of Zionists are Christian Evangelicals from the US.
That’s not true; Europe has pretty sizeable numbers too, and supposed liberal Zionists exist all over the West in large numbers. Screw them all, but let’s not pretend Zionists only have sway with one religious group.
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It’s worth pointing out that the reasons they support Israel as an ethnostate are largely two-fold
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They believe that a restored Jewish state in Palestine is a sign of Jesus’s return, meaning they’ll get raptured soon.
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They want Jewish people out of “their” country.
Zionism has a long history of antisemitism despite the apparent contradiction.
Exactly, many Nazis also find the idea of sending jews to the desert to be a preferable way of “dealing” with them. Fascists supporting fascists I suppose.
Come on, lets be historically factual here-- No one “sent the jews to the desert”. After WW2 many areas were floated for a potential jewish state. Look at the map here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/a67uop/countries_where_jewish_homeland_was_proposed_in/
with the obvious concern that putting a state in a territory thats already inhabitted would be a problem to say the least. But no, the zionists insisted it be created in the already inhabited ancient judean lands (from a country that disappeared more than 2500 years ago), and didnt care that itd mean ethnic cleansing of the owners of the land at the time-- and the idiot british backed their play. Hence the nakba, which never ended, and here we are today, still trying to settle that question that was so ridiculously poorly administrated 80 years ago. The world would be a better place now if that choice had been better handled. This started because of an epic political failure, informed by a recent genocide of the time and the victors of WW2 feeling like they could dictate whatever they wanted to the “vanquished”. This is not just a failure of zionism, it was an epic failure of the allies after WW2 to have any standards or forward looking thinking at all. People dont say this often, but some of that generation were just as much short sighted c*nts as we are today, and not “the greatest generation” …at all. We are still cleaning up that effing mess today with no end in sight.
I dont give two shites about “antisemitism”. The word has become meaningless. It just means “whatever the zionists want”.
Zionists really don’t like this but it is true. By calling everyone who doesn’t agree with you an “antisemite” to strike fear and/or silence them, it is bleaching the word and taking away its meaning and less people will recognize or respect the word for its real meaning. It’s not good.
I think zionists overestimate the degree to which people care about them at all. As long as you dont cause trouble in western society (and you have white skin), no one gives a crap about you unless you are a visible underclass. Why should they?
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Like when the ADL defended Musk’s Hitler salute and added that “all sides should give one another a bit of grace”.
The first 20 seconds of this documentary are a good example of “what makes you cheer”.
Yaay! War! Guns! Tanks!
you forgot dead children
Those are implied imo, considering there is no war, just slaughter.
As a Jewish person I have personally experienced more antisemitism and general hate from zionists than any antizionist
ANTIZIONISM =/= ANTISEMITISM
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Thats because for the most part counties that committed horrific acts (ex: Germany, UK, China, France, etc) are well established countries or (ex: US, Canada, Australia) have had colonial rule for so long they’ve become established. Meanwhile if you compare Israel to other settler colonial counties like Rhodesia you’ll find that they collapsed the second apartheid rule ended.
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That “believe” seems to imply that China doesn’t commit genocide.
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…because they believe that Chinese gov’t commits atrocities…
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Yeah, I have no problem with any people in general. But I’ve got lots and lots of problems with Jews, Muslims, Russians, Belgians, the Swiss, Kenyans, brunettes, Inuits or anyone else when they decide to invade countries for the purposes of removing their people and moving in their own.
In my final years on the right, I’ve read a Hungarian blog post titled “Unpopular opinion: the answer to the Jewish question is Israel”, and it not only begun with the worst “I’m not antisemitic, some great people were Jewish, but” (except multiple paragraphs), but also talked about how Jewish people are unfit to “live alongside with non-Jews”, and that the solution to all of it to let Israel have all of Palestine and maybe some other smaller Arabic countries as their population can just live in other countries like Saudi-Arabia (the same blog also regularly whined about the Treaty of Trianon, so…), and then the “peaceful deportations” can begin.
A lidel an’ alte fun undzere sonim “A geto deym eybigen Jid!”
Effectuvely translates to:
An old story we’ve heard from our enemies, “A ghetto for the eternal kyke!”
- In Zaltsikn Yam, S. Ansky, ~1901
Never let a zionist lie to you that it was ever consensus among Jews to relocate to a new ghetto.
It makes sense that racists who think humanity should be divided along racial lines would be broadly in agreement with each other, even when they are on different sides of those lines. It’s up to the rest of us to see through the lie that those divisions are the actual sides, when of course there is also pro-ethnostate and anti-ethnostate.
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Inexcusable? War of religions? My man, you have an entirely wrong, oversimplified view of events and takes on it. Do you understand Israel is a Western colonial project founded by the English and French a loooong time ago that has, since its conception, been nothing but murderous? It’s given the locals the easy choice of leaving or dying, so any anti-Israeli force are just resistance fighters against an ongoing occupation. I mean, for God’s sake, Israelis are nothing but a mix/groups of Eastern Europeans and Germanics, easily visible but also evidenced in their last names! Netanyahu’s actual last name before he changed it is Mileikowsky, for instance, but that’s a better sounding last name for the optics of invasion, right?
Ask yourself this question: should they simply lower their heads and submit by leaving their homes and letting the Godless, amoral colonizer finally win it all? What about the murder and willing sacrifice of their forefathers, siblings and descendants? What would you do, if your country was invaded by a group of violent savages? What’s the moral thing to do here, to be on the side of the oppressed until they vanquish the oppressors or to be on the side of the oppressor because, well, idk, they look like me and Muslims are scary? C’mon man.
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The comment you agreed with also stated all muslims are equally guilty of genocide, not just hamas. As others have stated things are complicated and comparing the actions of a colonial occupation to the actions of desperate people being actively killed off and that have no allies but extremists is dishonest or ignorant.
Colonizers are not “civilians.” Furthermore, every adult participates in the IDF and its crimes, completely obliterating the idea they are “civilians.”
You’re either very confused or paid to say this.
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Willing to bet that you’re either paid or just a downright horrible person.
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Wow, typical both sides argument you hear from Zionists. Sorry sweetie, I don’t listen to Zionist apologists since they’re always liars or disingenuous in some way.
Yeah fascist calling you a bad name is kind of a badge of honor
