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gedaliyah@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 4 months ago

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  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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    The British, when they have to click the American flag for English, and then they see “color” without the “u”:

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      Col-or what, that’s what I want to know.

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      We save it for u wot M8?

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    Brit here it’s our laugauge don’t like it? Get your own instead of spelling ours wrong

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      350 million Americans, 70 million British.

      Your minority opinion is noted but outvoted, micronation.

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        Colony

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          I’m here for this English on regressed English violence.

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            Regressed English are the Welsh mate the colonys are known as the new indies

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        Hmmmm yes but the average American reads at a grade 6 level, so I daresay UK beats USA there.

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          Do you have a comparable statistic for British adults, or could no one afford to fund the study?

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            https://literacytrust.org.uk/parents-and-families/adult-literacy/

            https://www.prosperityforamerica.org/literacy-statistics/

            These are what I found after searching literacy statistics for both nations. I haven’t gone and checked through the data but it seems that the UK has a lower illiteracy rate than the US.

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      Canadian here. Choosing between UK English and US English feels like choosing between an abusive father and abusive husband.

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        We are a reformed crazy dad we are trying to be part of your life but we’re still drama

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  • Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca
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    Why use many word when few word do.

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    Ok, it’s driving me crazy.

    Who is that? The actor, not the character they’re playing.

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      Lin-Manual Miranda

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        I thought so, thanks!

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      Isnt that Lin-Manuel Miranda?

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        I thought so, thanks!

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    • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone
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      Yeah, but it’s not obvious how many galoshes of diced onion I need when it says 100g.

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        Honestly at that point just use the whole onion

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        I had a roommate in college royally fuckup huge batch of very expensive ribs we’d bought for a party because the online recipe called for 2 cloves of garlic abbreviated as “garlic - 2c” and he put in 2 cups of garlic powder.

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          Fake - you can never have too much garlic.

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      I saw a New York Times recipe once that called for ¾ cup plus 2 tablespoons of all purpose flour.

      They meant 125g.

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    When I was visiting Paris, a tour bus we got on had a audio guide, the languages were all labeled with national flags.

    English -> UK flag French -> flag of France Spanish -> Flag of Spain Portuguese -> Flag of Brazil

    Even in Europe Portugal plays second fiddle for it’s own language

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      Brazil became such a cultural powerhouse, almost anyone in the world would recognize its flag. So it makes sense. But it’s funny because only Portuguese speakers would need to recognize the flag on that tour.

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        Yes, but the guys who made the guide (I mean the developers who assigned each audio track a flag, not the ones recording the audio) might not. I guess that might not even been developed in France and nobody cared enough to fix the bug.

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          I wouldn’t call it a “bug”

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            Me neither, just lacking a better word.

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              I bet too that the audio itself is in Brazilian Portuguese

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                Sounds likely

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    🇬🇧 English (Traditional)
    🇺🇸 English (Simplified)

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      🇨🇦 English (Celeste)

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      🇦🇺 English (Felon)

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      There are some English words and phrases that can’t be said in American English. Like the “I inherited this government position from my father”. Or, “Sure hope the King doesn’t veto this legislation”.

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        Lol don’t watch the news

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        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_vetoes

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        The last royal veto was in 1708, and any attempt to do so now would probably end the monarchy.

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        There are some English words and phrases that can’t be said in American English. Like the “I inherited this government position from my father”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeb_Bush

        🤔

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          Also, as far as the “King Veto” part:

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          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Cromwell

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Cromwell

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            They’re not denying that happens in England, just pointing out that it functionally happens in the US too. So I’m not really sure what your point is.

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      Except American English is the traditional. England kept fucking with their language and spelling, and now everything has 6 unnecessary vowels

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        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences#Historical_origins
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences#Latin-derived_spellings_(often_through_Romance)

        Webster’s 1828 dictionary had only -or and is given much of the credit for the adoption of this form in the United States. By contrast, Johnson’s 1755 (pre-US independence and establishment) dictionary used -our for all words still so spelled in Britain (like colour), but also for words where the u has since been dropped: ambassadour, emperour, errour, governour, horrour, inferiour, mirrour, perturbatour, superiour, tenour, terrour, tremour. Johnson, unlike Webster, was not an advocate of spelling reform, but chose the spelling best derived, as he saw it, from among the variations in his sources.

        Nope.

        Although unjerk, spelling reform and standardisation is very necessary for english.
        Rejerk

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      🇬🇧 English (Traditional)
      🇺🇳 English (Simplified)
      🇺🇲 English (Dumbified)

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        🇩🇪🇩🇰🇳🇴 Traditional?

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    “hmm… this isn’t the right country but let’s roll the dice and see what happens”

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      I did that with a game I installed and couldn’t figure out how to fix it. So I just uninstalled the game and tried again…

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    Scottish people having to click on a British flag knowing it will display English (there is a perfectly good flag for England that people refuse to use 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿)

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      Ami: isn’t that the red cross flag?

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      I think the Scots having to click on an English flag to read something would piss them off more?

      Or are you suggesting having a Scottish flag that displays the site in Gaelic for that 2% of Scots that know it?

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        I think you’re overthinking it slightly.

        • French flag represents the language called “French”
        • Spanish flag represents the language called “Spanish”
        • Russian flag represents the language called “Russian”
        • German flag represents the language called “German”
        • Portuguese flag represents the language called “Portuguese”
        • Japanese flag represents the language called “Japanese”
        • Korean flag represents the language called “Korean”
        • Chinese flag represents the language called “Chinese”
        • Italian flag represents the language called “Italian”
        • But somehow, the British flag doesn’t represent a language called “British”, but rather, one called “English”, despite there existing an English flag
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          See? This is why we shouldn’t use flags to represent languages.

          Go to Brazil, and I bet they use the Brazilian flag to represent the language they speak, not the Portuguese one.

          Go to Ireland, and you’ll see they use the Irish flag to represent the English language.

          In Switzerland, what flag should they use to represent Ladin?

          And what about Canada? They speak two official languages.

          The correct way to display languages is just their name or they ISO code. Using flags for languages is fundamentally wrong.

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            I feel like I’ve seen the Quebec territory flag used for “FR (Can)” which I found amusing as a US hick

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              French people think Quebec French sounds funny too

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          You’re right, I was, thanks. Good effort btw

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      there is a perfectly good flag for England that people refuse to use

      Well yeah, but these days, you say you’re English, you’ll get arrested and thrown in jail 😆

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    As an Aussie it really grinds my gears that office defaults to American spelling. And even after I change the dictionary to Australian or UK english it still continues to insert ‘z’ into words. It’s colonise, not colonize!

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      I thought in Aus and other international areas the Z was considered correct spelling, even though most of the rest follows British convention?

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        Australia follows British conventions. However both spellings are correct and there has been a rise in ‘z’ over the past few years with American influence.

        All government websites etc use British spelling.

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          Of course it’s worth adding that the Oxford English Dictionary argues (argued?) that the z is proper in British English! I disagree ;-)

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            What!

            My world doth shaketh

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              Mine too. I had to stop believing in the OED as the foremost authority on correct English!

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                Besides, they probably put commas in the wrong places over there too.

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      How do you pronounce that word

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        Haben Sie schonmal von germanischen Sprachen gehört, wo ein ‘S’ duraus so wie englisches ‘Z’ klingen kann?

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          I bet that sounds really good if you say it out loud

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    As opposed to everyone else when they have to click the US flag to get English language options

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      There is no U in “Boston Tea Party” either.

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        Bouston Teua Puarty

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    Traditional English vs Simplified English. I won’t tell you which is which.

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      Ah, one more way in which post-colonial America and Mao’s China are similar.

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    https://www.flagsarenotlanguages.com/blog/why-flags-do-not-represent-language/

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      No visual alternatives to flags were given. (And that’s because there aren’t any. Flags will do just fine for 99,99% of the public)

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        I feel like this would be a good alternative:

        English

        中文

        Español

        العربية

        Français

        Русский

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          That will definitely work, but I personally think the flags are more instantly recognizable.

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    it’s worse when it’s an American flag because I’m always looking for the British one

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      British English is the OG English. They should always use that flag.

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        yeah otherwise you might as well use the Australian flag or whatever

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          Or even the Canadian flag, to make it even more fun for the US people lol

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            ok that’s even better yeah

            and also Canadian for french, because it’s never wrong to mess with the french

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    English (simplified) or spanglish? I’ll let americans decide which is better

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