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I’m surprised it lasted 3 seasons to be honest. I hated it.
I couldn’t make it past the first episode.
I made it through the first season, but just barely, and I didn’t go back.
I’m a completionist, and i couldn’t finish the 1st season. I’ll let Miracle Max express how it felt: “why don’t you give me paper cuts, and pour lemon juice on it!”
I felt that way about the Fallout show. The acting (and the CGI) was so freaking bad
That’s funny. Because unlike WoT, I loved Fallout. The bad acting was part of the schtick.
Yeah, I have friends who love that show and I could barely make it to 4 episodes. They literally killed off the best character/actor in the second or third episode.
Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad.
Just to start off, the casting of the main character was genius, because depending on the camera angle she goes from gorgeous to uncanny valley and that’s the most Fallout thing I’ve ever seen on film.
I guess I’ll have to watch it
Fuck.
As someone who never read the books, I found the TV show cluttered. Part of that was watching it non-binge style I’m sure.
Should I give this another try? Even though there won’t be an “ending…”
The show has a completely different tone and pacing from the books. The books are much closer to LotR (particularly the first one which is basically just alt. Fellowship) and spend a lot of time with the characters traveling and getting to know each other and the lore of the world. There’s plenty of bickering, but the characters all like each other and get along decently. The show opted to cut most of the parts where you learn what’s going on to instead focus on manufactured drama.
They also just changed things in really confusing ways like making Mat’s parents deadbeats, among other things. Some of the plot restructuring makes sense given how much stuff there is to adapt. I don’t think anyone reasonable can expect any book adaptation to keep 100% faithful unless it’s getting crazy funding as a TV series. That said they just really took a knife to things.
Idk, as someone who loves the books despite their issues I wasn’t particularly enamoured with the show. Some people liked it though.
If the world seemed interesting I’d recommend the audiobooks. Love Michael Kramer and Kate Reading.
Making Mat’s parents deadbeats was just crazy to me.
THAT’S your line?
Not Perrin having and killing his wife? Not a total cut of Gaul? Not Aviendha and Elayne for… some reason? Not Perrin straight up actually killing geofram bornehald? Not moraine killing the shit out of seanchan at falme definitely breaking the 3 oaths?
Etc etc.
It was the wild West.
Heh. I forgot about Perrin killing his wife. Also fucking bonkers. I only watched season one, which was a train wreck.
Watch the season 2 finale, just the finale. you’ll love it.
Oh god. Okay. I’ll do it. For the lolz
Yeah I started it a couple times but kept losing track of the goal/stakes in the story. Really wanted to like it.
I only watched the first season (big fan of the books as a kid). Imo, it is not worth your time. They took out what makes WoT special and produced some extremely generic, bland fantasy.
They took out what makes WoT special and produced some extremely generic, bland fantasy.
That’s a great point. The show didn’t even capture the “vibe” of the books…at least in the first episode, which was unpleasant and boring at the same time…and is all I could get through.
Not nearly enough tugging of braids :d
skirt smoothing intensifies
Fuck’s sake, it had just started to properly settle down and get good
It legit was getting good. The first season was rough. I loved the books so I’ll watch it. Later episodes were getting better.
Didn’t read the books but found it an ok watch which was obv not enough for a marquee show.
The fate of most shows nowadays. Greedy companies don’t give a shit about telling a good story or giving it a proper ending.
All they care about is number go up.
Stop giving them your money and attention.
I’d like to see creators who own their rights put in contracts that the story must be told in full, and that whatever pacing is decided on (1 season per book for example) needs to be maintained. I know most studios would walk away, but I’d love for someone to have the balls to tell them that
You want to make my 10 book series into a TV show? Put your money where your mouth is and pony up 10 seasons worth
While i agree mostly, if someone wanted to edit some of The Slog down, I’d have no problems with that.
I just want to see creatives actually owning their creations in the future and not being slowly choked out by corporations and their greed.
“It you don’t sign over everything, we’ll just use Ai to rip you off and get away with it.”
Honestly I don’t see actors in the future owning their own likeness. “Want to be an actor? Well we’ll own your face and voice forever”
They’ll continue to own their likeness’. Studios just won’t hire them.
Hopefully another company will step in.
After 3 seasons they have to give people a pay bump so I’m mot surprised
Frankly, I am bummed by this news.
I read the books, but seeing how it was a decade+ ago since I last went through some of them, most of it is a blur and I can forgive some of the changes in favor of smoother storytelling.
While the show brought familiarity back, and season 1 was painfully bad in almost all ways, from adapting/changing characters to lore. The show was leaps better in S2 and with S3 each episode felt very cinematic and now told a more cohesive story.
So, even though it was adapted, I was looking out for each new episode and had high spirits for a good S4.
Alas, if it is not picked up by any other studio, the “unfilmable book series” will remain that way, no one will burn their hands on it again. So, those cheering its demise, take that in consideration.
In closing, Prime definitely did not do it full justice at the starting line and it was expensive to catch up to that fact …
But the show was treated and produced better than Rings of Power, which does get another stay and money pumped into it, a choice I rather saw turned around.Same. I am actually kind of pissed about how much neckbeardery there was around this online because the last season was legitimately getting good and I was excited to see it through, but all of the “um akshually the dagger was crimson” shit probably killed the show.
Yep I couldn’t get through the first 2 episodes of season 1. On paper it should have been great! I skip ahead to 2 and 3 thanks 😊
On the bright side at least we know how to pronounce Egwene now
The back of the books spell out words and names phonetically. I mostly ignored 'em, too.
So will Prime use this freed up budget to fund some decent programming, or will they just throw it at another big budget Bezos money pit project like the Lord of The Rings tv show and that awful Citadel tv universe?
My prediction: This is being sacrificed to pay for a Bond 007 tentpole show that won’t be any good.
Meanwhile Amazon owns the rights to Stargate and does nothing with it.
Naw, it will be another Meliana Trump documentary
I have a sneaking suspicion amazon picked up wheel of time only because they wanted to fill a high fantasy slot in the portfolio. Now they have rings of power with built in IP recognition, typical executive brain will put focus there instead.
Murderbot
It’s not … A great show?
But it’s fucking cheap (small cast, limited sets so far), and it’s trying to be charming.
It’s the streaming equivalent of comfort food.
We need more content like this to keep streams full, then we have a few prestige shows like andor or whatever.
What we have now is crap writing burning prestige money (twot/LOTR-trop) and leaving us with unwatchable crap.
That’s an apple show what does any of this have to do with anything
I’m making a point that we need more casual, cheap stuff like this to fill in viewing hours, with a few prestige shows for the high end.
Twot was trying to be prestige and ended up a complete disaster, while starving other good shows of that cash.
The boys is also fairly cheap in comparison (getting more expensive obviously as time goes on, but nowhere near twot/trop).
Tech companies had so much money they started throwing money at shit, that was the problem.
It could be better. I read the books and they’re rushing through the story at 90 miles an hour. And they are leaning into everything like it’s all quirky comedy which does a disservice to the source material. The characters are supposed to be characters, not caricatures. You should to care about what happens to these people but in the series they so far feel disposable. They’re also overdoing the voiceovers and on screen displays to the point of annoyance. The “rise and fall of sanctuary moon” inserts are a hoot though.
Yeah, the pace is stupid, the problem is it’s 22 minute shows, and I think they’re trying to finish in less than 10 episodes.
For 22m shows they should do 18-20 er season, but the format generally sucks for anything except comedy.
But I was optimistic because the short length also means it doesn’t have to be burdened by all the overwhelming pretense of the heavier stuff, it can be chill about it.
Oh god they did what to murderbot?! These bastards. What a waste of good source material
Didn’t read the books until recently. It was an okay show without the context of the books. The first season was slow and confusing but it seemed pretty par for the course for the YA fantasy genre.
Lot of people hating on it here for not sticking to the books, which is fine, I guess, but I’m glad shows like this are made otherwise the only shit I’d have to watch are “The Bachelor Season 405”, “Generic Cooking Competition 7”, and “Real Housewives of Bumfuck City”.
I agree with most others in here, they ran roughshod over major character traits and plot points for no discernable reason. Wasted an episode of the first season on some random Warder.
That said, the biggest crime was the 8 or 9 out of 10 emotion and yelling in basically every scene. Wheel of Time can definitely drag on, so maybe they were trying to spice things up? Idk, it was weird.
At least this Rand fucks, though.
I mean, Rand was running a harem for half of the series












