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This is good for the economy.
Do it. Please. The people need more negative press about the US. It hasn’t reach enough people in the EU yet.
Hasn’t reached enough people in the US, but it will
Please do
USEXIT!!!
…oh… wait
I’d vote for it if I could though
Bring… It… On. While you’re at it Trump, build the wall around the whole USA
Not my Ikea!!!
Time to act like China and not bend to him.
China’s strategy worked great, just counter any announced tarrif with an equal reciprocal tarrif and he’ll back off eventually. I wonder if we have more or less to loose than China had.
Even if we lose more, we can’t back down from a bully. We need to stand strong and roll with the punches
Totally, don’t want our governments to be pushed over. Just saying I have no clue how we compare to China in this.
Don’t worry, he’ll back down either way. He’ll just claim that he’s made a great deal with EU even if no such deal has been made, and then lower the tariffs again.
In our national news they’ve said that the EU made offers and the Trump Team didn’t even responded to them, and they have the impression that they are severely understaffed and through the flowers indirectly said not very competent
No, blind retaliatory tariffs would be stupid. When someone is punching themselves in the face, the correct thing to do is not to also punch yourself in the face.
Tariffs have 3 effects:
- The buyer pays more.
- Because the buyer pays more, the seller makes fewer sales.
- The government collects tariff tax revenue.
Whichever way the tariff goes, export or import, it will negatively affect that nation’s people. An import tariff, like this, would negatively affect local consumers. An export tariff (eg Canada tariffing electricity exports to the US) would negatively affect local businesses through lost sales (the genius with Canada is the US can’t stop buying electricity, so sales local sales would stay the same).
The only way a tariff makes sense for a country is if the tariff tax revenue is reinvested into the local economy. For example, if you tariff imports, you should use that revenue to incentivise local businesses to grow to replace that import.
Trump is not doing that. He’s just collecting tax money from American people. He’s almost certainly going to spaff that away on some scam, probably crypto, and basically bankrupt the American taxpayer and fuck up everyone’s livelihoods.
EU countries should not copy Trump and blanket tax their citizens for American imports. If the EU were to implement tariffs (and I argue this isn’t necessary or worthwhile), they should only be done with a plan to reinvest, such that there is a net benefit. Blunt tariffs with no plan will almost certainly have a net negative effect.
China is like Trump, in that neither of them care much about the negative effects on their people. That’s why China went hard with retaliatory tariffs. The EU does not need to emulate that behaviour.
They’re also throwing out the Windows Garbage out of government and critical systems and switching to Linux, and want to audit the sources for the remaining systems
I say do nothing, as per another reply I made ITT.
Just because Trump hurts Americans with his beloved increased taxes—i.e. increased tariffs—doesn’t mean we should hurt our own people with the same. The MAGAts might enjoy that sort of masochism, but we don’t.
Forget physical goods, hit us where it really hurts. Use the intellectual property clause, and start cracking down on Big Tech.
The US makes all its money with power projection through its services, so fuck them up. Please.
And for heavens sake, Europe would be healthier with a little less Twitter and fewer fees payed to the US.
This would be the perfect time to call out their hypocritical extension of copyright through recent trade deals.
American tech companies have made fortunes by violating licensing and copyright laws. Force Uber and AirBNB to buy taxi and hotel licenses. Put an intellectual property tax on AI. Prosecute Paypal for banking without a charter, ban cryto as illegal currency… the list goes on.
That’s another good idea;
and this would actually benefit most Americans.
maybe have a 20-something-European entertainer calling himself “Kid Rock” who who does covers and derivations, decked out in EU stars, who publicly burns the American flag, and if he’s a transman, even better. 😁
“Whatcha gonna do, MAGAts? Sue me? I live in Europe, where we have Freedom. not in USSA!”
We don’t hurt our own people. Europeans shouldn’t be buying US groceries anyway, there’s no need to.
The only thing that is largely inescapable is software, and that mostly affects businesses anyway. The USians will hurt way more.
I believe the economics agree, but the diplomats don’t. I am hoping the economics are the reason the eu is taking their time to respond.
It seems ignoring him hurts his pride the most. No real response is needed anyway. EU has the whole process ready. Just take the map marked “Trump tariff”, look in the index for 50%-75% and start from there. Probably the first step is a wait period for when he charges his mind yet again.
The real secret weapon against trump is taking his toys away. No one’s managed to do it but I want more than anything is to win back the house and senate, take his Qatar plane away and use it for humanitarian aid.
I will fall asleep tonight dreaming of only this one thing.
I think this is a good idea. Trumps just fishing for a reason to backdown on Ukraine weapons deal. If this does nothing he will find another way.
The responses are usually surgical. Last time EU also targeted Republican voting states with Sanctions
Thank you, this is something I’ve been screaming from the rooftops.
Trump doesn’t care about the American people who will pay his tariffs. China doesn’t care about Chinese people paying their tariffs on US goods (although there are probably fewer US imports to China anyway). The EU does care about its people, and shouldn’t tax them with tariffs.
Tariffs only work if you can prevent the local harm (eg Canada were going to tax electricity exports, the US can’t stop buying electricity so Canadian businesses wouldn’t lose sales) or to at least have a plan beforehand to reinvest in local businesses that can replace the imported good.
Get ready to sell those stocks, then buy again after, before rescinds again.
Perhaps, as a Canadian, stuff from Europe (and Asia, and Latin America) might go down a bit.
A lot of companies are unfortunately talking about raising prices globally so Trump doesn’t retaliate against them.
So the whole world is paying his stupid tariffs.
Not if we already don’t buy American.
Isn’t it that they have their own counter-tariffs against the US including, unfortunately, Canada, but if anything, Canada is opening up to Europe.
Walmart told investors they are raising prices in the US to compensate for Trump’s tariffs but he freaked out at them and now they are raising their prices worldwide instead.
So maybe I won’t shop at Walmart as often. Their prices post-covid already went a bit high.
I’m not worried.
How many other companies are going to raise prices without saying why now?
I don’t know, but it seems to me, in Toronto at least, that price increases have tapered off in the past 10 to 20 months.
I think that most of the places I shop are Canadian-owned, and I’m barely even trying to shop Canadian, or non-American, out of some supposed patriotic duty.
And here I thought we were discussing the prices of non-US stuff going down in the near future not that the price increases have tapered off in the last year or two.
Perhaps, as a Canadian, stuff from Europe (and Asia, and Latin America) might go down a bit.
Are they forgetting that in other countries there are other stores that don’t have HQ in US?
Aldi, Lidl, Tesco and Carrefour will be happy to eat their lunch
Why would they include Canada in counter Tariffs against the US?
That makes absolutely no sense and smells like fake news
I seem to have written it poorly. Sorry, people.
I meant that Canada, like much of the world, has imposed retaliatory tariffs against the US.
Been a while since econ 101 but I think tariffs are calculated as a cost of production shifting the supply curve to the left and also decreasing demand which shifts the demand curve to the left as well which should result in a nearly net zero impact for the company itself.
Anecdotally, avocado prices have plummeted in Canada due to American demand “decreasing” resulting in excess supply.
It’s just one source but it looks like avocados are the highest price they’ve ever been in Canada.
That’s actually wild. I don’t doubt it because more than a few wrenches were tossed into the supply chain but avocados in my specific city have been dirt cheap for a few months
Apparently in Toronto you can get 4 organic avocados at Walmart for $7 (or maybe less than US$5).
How much does a walmart organic four pack of avocados weight?
Idk: maybe 150 grams to 250 grams each.
800 grams for $7 is $8.75/kilo or $6.37US/kilo which is right in that chart I posted’s range for the last four weeks so I don’t know what you are trying to say here.
source? examples?
Already posted one and you can find others if you put in the energy.
I can’t find anything on what you said about walmart. The fact that avocado prices were high in 2024 in canada doesn’t mean walmart is about to raise them even further.
I have googled, and I can’t find anything on companies raising prices globally to get on Trumps good side. Most companies are dealing with boycott abroad, raising prices when their competitiors don’t have to and for such a reason would be suicide I think.
I call BS
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Western Europe should flood etsy with kickass stuff at really great prices to share and be cool to each other but then marks all sales as EU only. Use the US globalization as a way to squarely taunt the US digital bourgeoisie.
sorry! no, thank you! come again!
EU tariffs should be made highest for corporate sponsors of Trump to punish these assholes
Does Europe allow imports of organic American food (including free range)? Particularly from blue states?
They do, but the farmers have to participate in an USDA program to prove that they haven’t used weird hormones and other “optimizations” in their livestock
I like your idea, but the bourgeoisie aren’t shopping on Etsy. Etsy shoppers are regular folk with very little political power (on their own).
What your idea might do is piss off the Etsy shoppers who voted for him, and to that I say: every little bit helps.
That kind of dunking is less globalization and more globe trotters.
(Do they still have those?)
Fuck yes! I want to stand united against fascism and imperialis!
A united European Army to defend against Russia, China and the US!
United European army Against imperialists
Pick one.
The fascism is already here, the member states are just as susceptible to it. Fight in your own country against the fascists, or the fascists take your United European army for imperialist means.
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That’s pretty neat
Indeed
It’s an older code, but it checks out.
Hey that’s my monitor’s model number
True that
My sentiments exactly
I’m certain this was agreed upon in the recent phone conversation between Trump and punting Putin
Great we can keep our good food and wines at lower prices.
It would be pearls before swines if they go to the US.Like a dog listening to classical music.
OMG IT’S DIZZY!
Good food and wines before swines* /s
