• ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org
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    7 months ago

    if someone says they are christian, they are. I look at this person and see a perfect example of a religious person.

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      7 months ago

      if someone says they are christian, they are.

      Then you can’t hold someone who says they are a Christian accountable for the actions of other people who say they are Christian. Nor does the descriptor “Christian” tell you anything about a person other than the fact that they say they are a Christian.

      Afterall, someone who believes there is no God, and that it’s fine to torture, rape, and kill anytime your feel like, is a Christian as long as they say they are.

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      7 months ago

      My Dad had a saying I always really liked.

      “You don’t have to be a Christian to be a good person and you don’t have to be a good person to call yourself a Christian.”

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          7 months ago

          Stalin, Ghengis Khan, Pol Pot, etc. Shortcuts can lead to cliffs.
          I’m not suggesting that there aren’t some terrible, terrible Christians out there too.

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        7 months ago

        I would say that before you can become a Christian you first have to realize that you aren’t a good person, but if you call yourself a Christian and say you are a good person, you are neither.

        “Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the worst.” — 1 Timothy 1:15, NIV