- cross-posted to:
- Cyberstuck@lemmy.ca
- cross-posted to:
- Cyberstuck@lemmy.ca
- Farmington Hills officials are fuming over a glut of unsold Cybertrucks being stored in the city.
- Tesla has been parking the EVs at a shopping center earmarked for major redevelopment.
- Officials say the electric vehicles violate zoning codes and are warning the property owner.
Plenty of valuable recyclables and use the batteries for power storage. Fuck Leon Hitler.
Looking at the video, it’s not just trucks, it’s a whole lot of cars, too. At first I thought that was an active mall and those were cars of shoppers, but then you can tell that they’re all teslas.
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And send Tesla the bill for recycling cost
…you mean private property, read the article.
And do what with them? Seems like an unnecessary hassle.
Scrap them, and also fine the fuck out of Tesla for it.
If they did it proper and put it in the paper for 2 weeks that they have to be claimed by Tesler, then they can auction them off. Even bricked they have to be worth more in parts than scrap…
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Everyone involved in that business are shit at business through and through
Did he park them in a lot away from cameras, hoping there would be some “demonstrations” that would then allow him to claim insurance money? Does the policy cover “domestic terrorism”?
Fucking tow em.
Outside of the environment you say?..
The sides fell off?
Possibly better than the front falling off.
Plug them into the grid and use the damn storage.
Or take the batteries and do it more efficiently.
Fuck those stupid cars.
And charge them fees. Just like they’d do to any individual. The city could make some real bank.
Ah, they’re parked on private property, which means the property owner needs to have them towed. Which means the city has to notify the property owner (they have) ahead of the city doing the tow order. That it’s a derelict shopping mall means that the property owner likely doesn’t care. There’s also the complication of the city not wanting to piss off a commercial property owner.
But yeah, the end result should be towing, with daily storage fees racking up until Tesla comes and pays up. Tow lots don’t fuck around.
The only caveat is that they’re violating zoning codes. That means the city can directly act on it.
Of course, they likely have to go through the notification process before towing them, but they probably don’t have to have the property owners permission to do so. More likely they’ll warn the property owner a few times, then send them the bill for towing.
I imagine the city can tow, after following some kind of notification schedule. But the property owner isn’t going to pay the bill; not their vehicles, why would they give a fuck? Tesla is going to argue that the property owner should pay, since the violation is against the property owner. Tesla might not care, either, they’ve got nothing to do with the vehicles since nobody wants to buy them. If you just leave them in the impound lot, there’s no bill to pay. Since they’re unsold vehicles, there aren’t even titles for the city to put a lien on for the impound fee.
On the other hand, I know where a bunch of Crybertrucks (I’m leaving it) are, in case anyone has a bunch of extra spray paint they need to use up.
They’re probably hoping they get vandalized so they can collect insurance on them
MTIPGU
(Make Tesla Insurance Premiums Go Up)
Because the property owner is responsible for the things on their property, especially if they’re violating code. It’s the property owner’s responsibility to have them removed, even if they don’t own them, so if they don’t after being warned and the city hauls them off, they can get stuck with the bill for the tow.
They won’t have to pay for the storage of the trucks, though. Just the initial tow. Then they can sue whomever dumped them to try to recoup the cost.
But literally all they have to do is call a towing company who would be more than happy to remove them.
That it’s a derelict shopping mall means that the property owner likely doesn’t care.
Reasonable guess is that Tesla is paying rent to the mall owner. Is it usual to store unsold cars out in the open for long periods? I know they sit in outdoor new car lots at dealerships, but I figured maybe it usually wasn’t for very long.
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Scrap’em
Put 'em in a stew
Cy-ber-trucks
There is probably a lot of battery cells that can be salvaged.
Wow, that sounds like announcing a really juicy target for certain people. But if those vehicles were to sustain damage, that might mean an insurance payout. So really, there is an insurance company or two out there that we should be short selling and that should be providing security on that lot.
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Well if they’re just abandoning them, then the city should seize them and start selling them for parts. I know most of it is garbage but surely parts of it can go to something more useful.
The article didn’t do their research but certainly implies it’s the landlord making a quick buck on storage fees why waiting for redevelopment to start
There’s this weird parking ramp by old work. I took a drive through it once to see if they happened to have a L2 charger in it and it appeared to be all rental cars from one of the really budget rental companies.
Budget?
Lol. It was actually Advantage.
Yeah those batteries are valuable
On one hand, lmao. On the other, seems like kind of a dumb thing for the city to get mad over. Not like that dead mall’s parking lot was suddenly going to become a economic center of the city or anything.
“Tesla has been parking the EVs at a shopping center earmarked for major redevelopment.”
They’re in the way of the redevelopment.
Then the property owner should have them towed.
Wouldn’t want to incur the wrath of the richest asshole on the planet
That sounds more like “We’re going to eventually do this” rather than “the bulldozers are here, move your shit” to me.
But using the land for
vehicledumpster storage is against city code. 😂The property owners should seize them for unpaid storage fee’s. That has happened in my state. Putting your property on someone elses property is considered a tacit admission of a debt when it comes to storage. Ironically there is another law that states you can’t charge for more than six months storage without a signed agreement. However there is nothing regulating how much that fee is. Case in point a person failed to pick up late model car at a towing company for two years. The towing company gave the owner a huge bill and they went to court to get it reduced to six months. The towing company just resubmitted a bill for six months at a increased rate that equaled the amount of the original bill. By the time the asshole who should have come and got their car sooner got through the bill had went up again. It was quite entertaining. to watch.
Everywhere you look in Illinois you’ll see variations of “unauthorized vehicles will be towed at owners expense.” So I don’t know what those guys’ problem is; impound them.
Same thing is happening in Europe with Chinese EVs. Chinese EVs are piling up at European ports because they’ve gone unsold and the carmakers were way too optimistic or it’s some sort of book keeping trickery to rack up the sales figures.
Executive bonus target, deliver x number of cars in Europe. Job done!
Is that still the case though? I can only find articles from 2024 about this
But using the land for vehicle storage is against city code.
You can park your car in the parking lot, but not that car…
And dealers do not randomly park cars in parking lots without permission otherwise they would have been towed. The lot owner is getting paid.
A lot of municipalities have different rules and definitions for “parking” and “long-term parking.” In a lot of cases long-term parking is strictly prohibited in places where parking is otherwise encouraged. You can’t just leave your vehicle in one place.
You’ve got to move it, move it.
I like to.
MOVE IT!
I’m trying to figure out why someone would care. The mall is mostly closed. Yeah, the dealership must have paid the lot owner, so I don’t see the problem.
It’d be great if the ugly things didn’t exist, but since they do, they have to go somewhere.
they have to go somewhere.
Recycling plant?
Often it comes down to liability and an attractive nuisance. Long term parked vehicles create cover for activities, while short term traffic has a flow of people.
They’re ugly. Probably lowering real estate values.
For a dead mall under redevelopment?
And the rest of the town.
It’d be great if the ugly things didn’t exist, but since they do, they have to go somewhere.
Yes, recycling centers.
Can’t the city claim eminent domain on them and then sell them at auction?
Elmo would remotely brick them out of spite if that happened.
Sell them for pennies to the US military. They can use them as incendiary devices.
There he goes again - saving the government money. /S
Use them as target practice or give them to fire departments to train on extinguishing lithium fires.
I don’t think lithium fires can be extinguished. I thought dumping sand on them might be a solution but a commenter mentioned that the fire is self oxidizing and basically you just have to wait for it to end, while maybe cooking it with water a bit as it burns.
They wouldnt even make good range targets because theyre likely to spontaniously combust
Ever hear of tannerite?
Yeah that’s what we should do. Give Elon Musk a massive defense contract for his garbage vehicles
That is a lengthy court process. Just call in an anonymous tip to the cops that they’re being used to smuggle drugs, and they can civil forfeiture them. Then police auction
That’s not a terrible idea. But it does put the proceeds in the hands of the cops.
I’ll take one for $1
I don’t know if I would. I don’t want the analytics and tracking on me.
$1.01
That’s to rich for my blood.
Fuck that, pay me to get rid of that for you
What are you going to do with it, haul four-foot boards on flat paved roads?
“I’d buy that for a dollar!”