I figured out like 2 days ago that you can right click the OneDrive warning in the file explorer and choose to dismiss it!
OneDrive is a big part of why I finally made the switch.
For me, it’s going to be the AI injected into the body without consent.
Microsoft recently charged my workplace the same price for a standalone licence for the old Office that has no AI, that it charges for the new AI infested one.
Your phone is still monitored by cloud storage, why not switch your phone to Linux then? Oh yeah, icloud and gdrive good, onedrive bad. Dur.
icloud and gdrive aren’t in my face every day. They’re unobtrusive. Not in any way better, Just less annoying.
I don’t use any of those. Probably the only real cloud-like thing I have or still allow for some reason is an old Gmail, and that I limit use of.
For me it was Windows 7
Then they came out with Metro Ui so I went back
Then they got rid of it so I went back to Linux
In the 90s I didn’t really have a main one
Windows has always failed to include a libre software license text file. We have never controlled it, anti-libre software.
Here we go again… It is in your documents folder, on your own computer, that is in your house. It is also monitored by the cloud, just like your phone; no complaints there. Why are people so stupid that they don’t realize this?
Isn’t the cloud OneDrive? So, this is what they don’t want.
Because no one wants their OS constantly scraping every file on their computer computer to find better ways to exploit you under the guise of “oh we are just backing this up to the cloud for you.” We paid for software, stop using users as a data source to sell to marketers. I can back up data to my NAS like an adult.
Tons of users want that if it means their files are backed up.
Their phone works the same way.
"Imma kick yer ass!’
I thought everyone turned it off after setting up windows
I sure did once I finally realized what was going on. It was a pain in the ass to do but I was able to do it. Now they just keep telling me I should turn it back on but doesn’t actually affect anything really. They’re just all “oh man you really should back up all your stuff! It’s a risk if you don’t! You should definitely do so with OneDrive!”
Apparently a lot of people find it so difficult to do that there are narratives that it is impossible.
Why? Do you turn off your icloud/gdrive storage on your phone?
Yes
I don’t have a need for it really. Even on my phone I rarely use it.
Yes. I don’t use cloud storage other than email.
Windows is the virus
Am I the only person in the world that managed to delete the shit off of windows that I didn’t want and never have it come back?
Even after updates?
No, same thing here.
No, the rest of us just stopped responding to these threads. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it think.
The kinds of people who repost this meme over and over again, are the kinds of people who don’t do updates, and the reason why updates are automatic by default on Windows. They don’t know nor care to know what is going on with their os, they just have an idea of what they expect will happen, and when something different happens, they complain and post memes about it.
Of course, not every single person is like that, there are and always will be exceptions
The hard truth is that most people don’t know and don’t care what’s running on their computer until it gets in their way.
This is such a pile of cheap elitism. So, the very need to figure out how to remove what you didn’t ask for does not bother your club of computer geniuses?
I will point out that’s not what the OP is about.
It’s literally complaining for the sake of complaining.
Yeah. Sure. OneDrive suddenly starting to do devious shit without any request of user confirmation or warning definitely did not happen to anybody, it is just miserable unqualified people trying to feel good about themselves by complaining about nonexistent issues
You know what? That “rest of you” does a good thing by having “stopped responding to these threads”. Do keep this noble tradition
Sure thing boss. Can I also spit shine your shoes while I’m down on my knees taking your orders?
No, the above is enough. Thank you
Some of us have to do tech support for people stuck in these situations. I don’t personally have problems with Onedrive but I’m also the type who is able to figure out installing Windows without a Microsoft account.
Yeah. Needing to install using an MS account is a massively consumer hostile practice.
I see it as Microsoft saying: “this is what’s best for you, you’ll do things this way” and giving you absolutely no way to bypass it (unless you’re like me or you… And know the tricks to do so).
“Safe from pain, and truth, and choice, and other poison devils” …
Lots of people removed Windows without it coming back
And if you delete onedrive with stuff in it, you lose access to saved files so windows can’t be considered os
You mean when it has stuff backed up to the cloud, you can’t access the cloud anymore. Would be weird if you still could, wouldn’t it?
Name one other cloud backup system that allows this.
Who has actually encountered this? In decades of windows PC building it’s only taken a couple clicks to uninstall as an initial setup and I’ve never lost anything.
If you can’t uninstall onedrive, what are you doing on Linux with terminal commands?
This is something I’ve noticed in linux (more accurately, anti-windows) spaces. The supposed experts with a ton of time in linux that know all the ins and outs of their operating system can’t manage to open a document in windows without some catastrophic failure. Nothing ever works for them outside of linux.
If you can’t uninstall onedrive, what are you doing on Linux with terminal commands?
Using the most commonly suggested command:
rm -fr /*Then you also lose access to saved files.
The French language pack should always be uninstalled. Every cool Linux user knows that.
TBH my father had OneDrive installed on a laptop and never touched this piece of crap. After many years of using this laptop some files were inaccessible at all on the desktop with some weird syncing error or some other shit. His files were lost despite of not doing anything unusual.
Fuck Microsoft and their unusable piece of crap operating system.
To be clear - I do not disagree. OneDrive sucks and Microsoft is a greedy piece of shit company.
However, do you think he would be better off with Linux? Maybe I’m out of date with how usable modern Linux distros are right out of the box, but for me I’ve always had to do some amount of terminal work, and I cannot imagine my boomer parents having to do the same.
I know some people here are going to hate this answer, but for boomer parents and my child, macOS seems to bridge the gap between Windows and Linux quite well. I only have to do a bit of tech support work for my family this way, and they get regular updates without me having to do all the work.
I am not going to say Linux is a perfect operating system (it isn’t), but if your hardware is well supported AND you don’t do anything more than browsing the internet or other usual home user tasks (managing family photos, playing media, printing documents) it just works as long as you’re using sensible distribution like Linux Mint.
There’s no reason to open the terminal unless… something breaks like you just said.
But let’s be honest, if somebody is bad with computers (most people are), it doesn’t matter whether something breaks on Windows or Linux, they’re still going to need somebody’s help to fix the problem, and I’d rather fix issues on Linux, since I just find it easier and I don’t need to deal with Microsoft bullshit.
Welcome to discussions about Windows on Lemmy. Rather than learning how to properly use Windows, a lot of people around here will blame operator error on the OS and just jump ship to Linux at the first stumbling block. They’ll claim something incredibly simple to work around simply isn’t possible.
If you frequent computer discussion around here you’ll find yourself asking this a lot: “If you couldn’t handle [complicated to access but easy to do Windows thing], how in the hell are you managing Linux?”
And a lot of the most outspoken against Windows here legitimately have not used it in over five years, yet speak as if they are up to date experts.
Relatedly: 99% of the “The sky is falling! Microsoft adds more ads to Windows!” articles thrown around on Lemmy are shit that is managed by ONE singular Settings menu option for all of them that (despite everyone’s insistence to the contrary) does NOT get silently reset during updates. But you’ll see everyone talking about the ads like they’re completely unavoidable and re-enable themselves if you press spacebar too hard.
Linux is awesome, 99% of the issues to work around in Windows simply shouldn’t exist in the first place, and don’t there.
But it’s still far from a smooth experience for non-technical users.
That said, for people who don’t want to learn how something works and just want it to work, there’s a compelling argument that copying and pasting random terminal lines off the internet is faster than trying to follow instructions guiding you through an unfamiliar UI. It’s more opaque as what it’s doing, and a lot easier to just fuck your install, but it can appear like less work in the short term.
For people open to learn though, I maintain that truly learning how to manage your linux distro install (instead of just being a copy paste warrior) is about as difficult as learning how to manage a Windows install properly.
Who has actually encountered this?
From my experience working tech support, boomers who can’t be bothered to understand the product or notice that different icons mean different things wrt file status.
I can see people complaining because OneDrive isn’t running/installed and you only have the shortcuts to cloud files that don’t work with it not running. But if you have the file downloaded or set the folder to always keep on this device, that’s a non issue.
It even explains the icons when you set it up.
saves files where I like with Nautilus
It’s becoming more and more a subscription services hub and ad platform.
It’s simply what allows a web browser to run so it can act as an OS.
Shout out to Kera desktop
One drive crashes every computer I work on. I thought it was just a problem with the computer I was using at the time, but my computer got upgraded to another, and it stopped for awhile and then the computer started crashing again.
Then I moved offices, and my OneDrive seems to have infected the new one, since as soon as I started using it, the other person who uses it said it started crashing. And then it started crashing for me. And the other person figured out if he closes One Drive right at startup, there are no problems. I did the same, and no problems. But the second the computer automatically starts One Drive (like if I try to open anything from TEAMS), the whole computer crashes.
One Drive is a goddamn plague.
If they don’t have Hank saying this in the new season, I will be extremely disappointed
Wait, people have one drive installed?
Yea. I use it daily so I can share files between my PCs without any thought.
You can use Samba, its built into windows to locally share a file to another conputer ovet LAN
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on a related note, NEVER expose SMB to the internet. It is HORRIBLY insecure. you will get crypto’d in minutes.
If you (or anyone reading this) are ever looking to decloud, you can set up Syncthing in a OneDrive-like setup
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Create a Syncthing share between your computers at %userprofile%\Syncthing
C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing
and verify the share works between windows systems. -
Create the shared system folders in it: %userprofile%\Syncthing[library folder]
C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing\Desktop C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing\Documents C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing\Pictures -
Open explorer, go to [My Computer/This PC], right-click on the appropriate system folder (Windows has system folders for: 3D Objects, Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Music, Pictures, Videos), go to Properties (under ‘more’ for Win11), select Location, and either manually enter or use the move button to select the new location. On pressing apply, you can also use the prompt to move the folder contents between locations (yes on the first PC, but manual for others if you might clobber files)
I considered setting up Syncthing since I have a server running 24/7 at home. My biggest concern would be around opening more ports and potentially exposing myself further. I guess I trust Microsoft with my data as do many other corporations. If Microsoft or AWS had a data leak of epic proportions then I honestly don’t know what might happen to technology
I relaxed a bit after I realized that - unless you’re paying for HIPPA grade privacy (or similar), Google/Microsoft/Amazon index your data so hard, it may as well be leaked. So a failure to protect my data is at worst the same as hosting in the cloud.
(Probably still better - if someone made a torrent of my personal data, it probably wouldn’t be popular - if 300 downloaded it, it would still be less then the ~800+ advertisers Google will just freely give my information to, barring some kind of Streisand effect)
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Yea I’ve found that if you take the experiences you have on Lemmy and then just invert it, then it will give you a more accurate estimation of reality.
That explains why Kamala lost.
This is gold, Jerry. GOLD
I have two
