Not entirely on topic, but I think we should have armed guards for our schools. They and other people in the movement against Trump should have an verifiable ID, so that fake protectors can’t prey on folks. Here is an ID that I mocked up.
Paired with an secure database and legitimate app built for it, we can use a QR code for people to use. Name, picture, role in the movement, home state, medical information, and so forth can be provided through it. In this fashion, we can keep people safer. Plus, in the event of open war, our casualties can be more easily identified. This might save lives, since the medical information can allow for more tailored treatment. EG: Penicillin allergies.
isn’t a great big database of dissenters the thing the Trump admin really really wants to put together?
That would happen anyways. They got the DMV, voting records, Palantir, and so forth. This is more about ensuring that we can trust our own folks - whip out a phone, check if the app gives a legit profile, and then let the person pass through a checkpoint or join up with an activity.
I should buy a gun.
2 guns. AR-15 and Glock. Primary and sidearm. Or if you have the money, might as well get a Beretta 92FS as a sidearm.
then what? shoot and go to jail?
Better than not shooting and getting black bagged to El Salvador.
Eyy, they’re finally getting it
Better late than never
You should train how to use a gun
Absolutely. I’ve been shooting periodically since I was a teenager but I could use a refresher.
Gold standard:
Be able to draw from concealment and hit a 6” steel circle at 10 yards in under 1.5 seconds. Every time, 10 draws in a row.
Ensure you can perform an elpresidente stage run in 6.5 seconds with all hits in the alpha scoring zone.
You can perform a fast drill in under 7 seconds, 3 times in a row back to back.
Your splits at 7 yards are under 2 tenths.
Your draw, shoot, reload, shoot on a 7 yard 6” steel plate is under 2.5 seconds. 10 times in a row.
Amateurs train until they get it right. Professionals train until they can’t get it wrong.
You always fall in the moment to the level of your training, so absolutely train if you decide to arm yourself. Otherwise you have given someone in power the ability to take lethal force from you and use it against you, or worse, you have misapplied it and harmed someone you did not intend to.
Ty. Saving this advice for sooner rather than later.
What the actual fuck
If you don’t crack the next ICE agent you see over the head with a brick or a large rock, you’re complicit.
Love to, but they usually come in pairs or more. Any plans for avoiding the subsequent retaliatory gunfire?
Bring a friend, or make it a date.
Take a page from Ukraine. Drones can drop all kinds of interesting things.
I wonder how a person wakes up one day and says to him/herself: i want to kidnap children when i grow up
“The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be good or evil.” ~ Hannah Arendt
I still don’t know what to make of her views on nazis given the fact she had a lifelong romantic relationship with the one who ejected her and other Jews from her university.
Did Heidegger not also possess this “banality of evil”? Or was he somehow an acception?
The romantic choices of many of us between the ages of 18-21 (her age during their actual affair) probably don’t bear scrutiny.
An ex who later became a nazi (and then recanted) is probably an excellent example of how quotidian these kinds of evils can be.
She was only human and some of her views are problematic, but I don’t think it’s a case of contagion.
The romantic choices of many of us between the ages of 18-21 (her age during their actual affair) probably don’t bear scrutiny.
I’m not scrutinizing her for any choices between 18 and 21.
This was a lifelong relationship, Hannah herself reached out and continued writing letters in his defense from the 1950s to her death.
An ex who later became a nazi (and then recanted) is probably an excellent example of how quotidian these kinds of evils can be.
Ex? No.
Recanted? They denied he had any nazi sympathy and claimed it was all a mistake
Later, in a 1969 birthday tribute essay “Martin Heidegger at Eighty,” Arendt penned what has generally been taken as an exoneration of Heidegger. In it, she “compared Heidegger to Thales,” writes Gordon, “the ancient philosopher who grew so absorbed in contemplating the heavens that he stumbled into the well at his feet.”
This was the accepted view of Heidegger until 2014 when the black notebooks came out
But major Heidegger scholars have responded in a variety of ways—including resigning a chairship of the Martin Heidegger Society—that suggest the worst. According to Daily Nous, a website about the philosophy profession, when Günter Figal resigned his position in January as chair of the Martin Heidegger Society, he said:
As chairman of a society, which is named after a person, one is in certain way a representative of that person. After reading the Schwarze Hefte [Black Notebooks], especially the antisemitic passages, I do not wish to be such a representative any longer. These statements have not only shocked me, but have turned me around to such an extent that it has become difficult to be a co-representative of this.
Hannah defends him as just so focused on high philosophy he never noticed the antisemitism
Recalls Adam Kirsch in the Times:
The seal was set on his absolution by Hannah Arendt, in a birthday address broadcast on West German radio. Heidegger’s Nazism, she explained, was an “escapade,” a mistake, which happened only because the thinker naïvely “succumbed to the temptation … to ‘intervene’ in the world of human affairs.” The moral to be drawn from the Heidegger case was that “the thinking ‘I’ is entirely different from the self of consciousness,” so that Heidegger’s thought cannot be contaminated by the actions of the mere man.
but I don’t think it’s a case of contagion.
Modern scholars seem to say otherwise
In a long, carefully documented essay, Wasserstein (who’s now at the University of Chicago), cites Arendt’s scandalous use of quotes from anti-Semitic and Nazi “authorities” on Jews in her Totalitarianism book.
Wasserstein concludes that her use of these sources was “more than a methodological error: it was symptomatic of a perverse world-view contaminated by over-exposure to the discourse of collective contempt and stigmatization that formed the object of her study”—that object being anti-Semitism. In other words, he contends, Arendt internalized the values of the anti-Semitic literature she read in her study of anti-Semitism, at least to a certain extent
https://slate.com/human-interest/2009/10/troubling-new-revelations-about-arendt-and-heidegger.html
And are these your own views too? I thought you said you didn’t know what to make of her.
I have to admit I’m not particularly invested in this issue, but I do think it’s a gross mischaracterisation to say the letters post relationship somehow constitute an ongoing affair. They quite obviously don’t.
Heidegger was an antisemitic Nazi and the black notebooks prove there was a lot more to that than he pretended after he publicly recanted. As far as I’m aware historians have not found any evidence that Arendt was any more aware of the content of the notebooks than anyone else was.
I agree Arendt’s work is flawed as I noted above.
When I quoted her, my intention was simply to communicate that specific idea, with which I agree - not to evoke her as if she were some kind of infallible god.
I’m not in favour of abandoning the concepts of ideology and interpellation because Althusser murdered his wife, similarly I’m not going to abandon the concept of the banality of evil because Arendt was deluded about a creepy professor she had an affair with.
And are these your own views too? I thought you said you didn’t know what to make of her.
Oh I get that comes across weird, I’m looking all this stuff up as you’re challenging me on it and what I’m finding is starting to solidify my views a bit more.
I have to admit I’m not particularly invested in this issue, but I do think it’s a gross mischaracterisation to say the letters post relationship somehow constitute an ongoing affair. They quite obviously don’t.
That doesn’t seem as obvious to the New Yorker
In 1950, seventeen years after they had last communicated, Arendt and Heidegger met again, when she went to Germany to help track down stolen Jewish cultural treasures. At times, she had been publicly critical of Heidegger’s behavior during his rectorship and afterward, but the renewal of their ties banished all her suspicions. “This evening and this morning are the confirmation of an entire life,” she wrote to him after their meeting. For the next two years, their love enjoyed a brief afterlife, as Heidegger wrote poems about her and told her things like “I wish I could run the five-fingered comb through your frizzy hair.”
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/01/12/beware-of-pity-Hannah-Arendt
(The author betrays a very obvious bias about what we’re supposed to take away to be fair)
When I quoted her, my intention was simply to communicate that specific idea, with which I agree - not to evoke her as if she were some kind of infallible god.
Yeah I’m with you there.
As far as I’m aware historians have not found any evidence that Arendt was any more aware of the content of the notebooks than anyone else was.
That I’m not sure.
I don’t think I really know enough to have a right to that strong a view when the historical record seems to be changing so recently and most of her letters are lost whole she kept all of Heideggers, but what I’m finding is a bit troubling tbh.
For over half a century she was considered the best source of insight into Eichmann and Nazi psychology.
With new knowledge about her conflict of interest and defence of Heidegger I’m left wondering how much of an expert she should be considered.
It seems from the evidence, Heidegger was a willing and complicit Nazi who wrote about genuinely antisemetic views. In that light, Hannah’s defence of him is surprising.
I’m unsure of what go make of her psychological evaluation capabilities if she had such a glaring blindspot here.
I’m not in favour of abandoning the concepts of ideology and interpretation because Althusser murdered his wife, similarly I’m not going to abandon the concept of the banality of evil because Arendt was deluded about a creepy professor she had an affair with.
Right, neither am I.
That’s why I didn’t abandon it and instead said I am unsure what to make of it.
I’m not trying to come to a black or white conclusion, I think this is a complicated subject.
Ah, I think I understand you better now. It’s an interesting conversation.
To me, that quote from the New Yorker about combing her hair etc supports my view that this was likely some sort of personal issue involving an idealisation of her ex as a person.
considered the best source of insight into Eichmann and Nazi psychology.
I suppose I’ve never regarded her in that light.
She’s a philosopher: she articulates some key concepts that are valuable, but a) philosophers hypothesizing like that isn’t exactly social science and b) I tend to see the Holocaust in the broader historical contexts of genocide and imperialism. Through that lens, Nazi psychology loses its central importance as some sort of unique phenomenon because it isn’t really much different from most of the other genocidal regimes that predate it.
This probably sounds like sacrilege in some quarters (Elie Weissel) but to me the usefullness of Arendt lies in what is generalisable, even if that was in itself rooted in material and historical specificity.
ideology and interpretation
Sorry for the typo. I meant interpellation!
I think it’s more about following your passion and just one day finding yourself behind the steering wheel.
To be fair, i did that, but i was aiming for a witchy mysterious throw-them-in-the-oven sorta way, and dropped that aspiration just about the second i learned the only people who kidnap children nowadays are pedophiles.
It’s just not the right cultural moment for reclaiming that.
Please feel free to prove there’s a single ice agent that’s not a pedophile. Edit: then maybe i can start on my childhood dream of being a terrible witch who throws kids in my oven and/or cauldron.
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Do you have any proof though?
This post
It’s getting to that point.
Our only option is going to be killing them.
It’s that or be killed.
Imagine a 1st grader in an El Salvadorian prison. Then remember that Trump’s staff is full of eugenicists.
then you will be labelled terrorist and your house address will given to a drone by palantir, that will bomb it when you are at home with your entire family.
maga has a right to defend themselves
Everyday, some new horror to discover about the world. Goddamn.
Are they looking for handmaids?
Pedo shit
Elites stealing children for their adrenochrome where are those chicken shit little conspiracy cunts when we could use them.
Test run? You’re there already
In Annecy, Frnace, there’s a plaque on one of the elementary schools where Jewish kids were forcibly removed from class by the ss and taken away. Same shit’s starting to happen in America now.
Kill the fascists, disrupt their plans. Fuck them.
Stephen Miller is probably even more evil than TACO Don.
Vote fascism.
Get fascism.What about the people who didn’t vote fascism and instead stayed home and complained about the black woman and Israel?
You think the Dems who are not doing shit now would have somehow prevented this? They’re complacent. Politician’s aren’t owed your vote just because the other guy is worse, thats not democracy. Politicians need to earn your vote, and not one pesidential candidate has in a decades.
This is where we’ve been heading for over 4 decades, with no opposition. There was no magic choice that would have prevented this, or possibly even just slow it. Dems at best would just slow the pace a little, but never stop it. Best they can say is that we need “unity” despite the fact that you can’t do a “middle ground” with people who want you wiped out. Kamala would have capitulated to the trump party’s demands as she was already doing with her rhetoric while the genocide continued because “she’s speaking”. The Democratic party and Kamala failed the people, not the other way around. Sooner you realize that, the sooner you can see who your real enemies are.
Could the Dems have prevented a second trump presidency if you had voted for Harris? Yes I believe that.
Fact is you guys bitched about Biden and so you got an educated black lady instead and you guys were still like “no not that!” The American left splintered and imploded and nobody was left enough for anyone else. If you were even slightly right or even left of someone you got called a fascist. You guys rejected allies at every turn. Meanwhile the right united, played you guys and ate your lunch.
The rest of us around the world are rightfully pissed off at you cretins who even now still pretend like there’s no difference between Trump and Harris
Theres so much distintion you completley boiled out of that, to the point where I don’t think you’re actually analzing anything and are just lashing out.
I wouldn’t call a cop, supporter of genocide, unpopular, failed candidate no one wanted, whose biggest accomplishments are being for transfering trans people to the wrong prisons, and heading the office that argued against letting out of prisoners as it would deplete a “necessary labor pool” just an “educated black lady”, and in fact boiling down an individual to just a symbolic representation of their skin color is pretty damn rascist.
If you really think Dems could have prevented this you haven’t been paying attention. Their job was to be complicent to maintain the status quo as much as possible, and crush any true progressive movements, as they do time and time again. Even fucking FDR’s new deal that gets lauded as a huge victory was used to undercut the true demands of the labor movement of the time.
Just because some people painfully aware of the horrific positions we are in as a working class, and realize that the only way we stand any chance is to throw off the illusions and start playing hardball, doesn’t mean they are the enemies for challenging your own complaiency.
Maybe should’ve voted instead…
Or the people who kept us from getting anyone who could actually rally enough people to fight fascism before it got this far by standing behind the senile old guy nobody liked who proved for four years he wasn’t gonna stop shit, til he literally shat his pants on stage, then gave us his appointed second, who kept all the same policies and was personally a cop.
Just fuck them all, whole country is a write-off.
Whatever excuse you guys need to use to dodge responsibility i guess. The rest of us around the world are smart enough to hold our nose and vote in a candidate to oppose fascism, but Americans aren’t smart
Great way to sleepwalk into fascism
I wish I could argue with you about this. But I can’t. I voted for Harris, so many here refused because she wasn’t good enough. It’s like they want to go straight from where we are to perfect in a single election. The reason the process is slow is to avoid the very situation we’re in now. Incremental progress. Unfortunately the last 60 years or so have been used to erode the whole process, so we’re left with law makers and judges more interested in being rich and influential than doing their jobs.
I’m seriously looking forward to the results from the Rockland county NY election lawsuit. I’m seriously bummed the Harris campaign did fundraising for a recount but never called for one.
Yeah, its my fault the candidate was bad.
No, it’s not. We can argue whether or not she was really bad, or just not good enough, but the point is, when you have a choice between not perfect (or “bad” for the sake of argument) and objectively awful, and you choose nothing, then you’re equally responsible for the current state of things.
There are people suffering and dying now because he’s in charge, and let musk take his stupid chainsaw to aid programs. Israel is still doing awful things to the Palestinians, and he did absolutely nothing to help the situation between Ukraine and Russia. He’s ramming into every guardrail in our government and breaking through many of them. There will absolutely and 100% be more death and suffering with him as president than if we had gotten Harris. This was obvious well before the election, however the scope and speed are surprising, pretending that abstinence is somehow the morally superior stance is mind boggling.
Yeah it’s totally my fault she couldn’t stop looking for groups to alienate, groups in critical fucking areas.
It’s my fault the dnc chose such an awful candidate
It’s my fault the dnc had to switch lanes at the last second because the old senile man, half dead from ass cancer, couldn’t pretend anymore.
I admit it. This was all my fault. Harris, her team, and thr party? All blameless.
Whatever excuse you guys need to use to dodge responsibility i guess
Literally voting for genocide and telling other people to vote for genocide while saying this shit
Literally voting for fascism and telling other people to vote for fascism and telling them it’s to fight fascism.
Every voter who stayed home, voted for it as much as those who went to the election place and voted for Trump.
Don’t vote? Don’t fucking complain.
Only nazis who promote and support genocide can complain
I, a nazi, came up with this rule
Only nazis can make rules
Rumor has it that might need to be amended to “agree to electronic voting, expect fraud”
I generally agree, evoting mostly solves a nonexistent problem.
Yeah, those goddamn Trump-voting first graders. Fuck.
This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.
What, in LA where they voted overwhelmingly voted for Harris but at always shafted by the electoral college?
Fascinating that you think my comment was/should be limited to LA.
Pretty sure they mean people who didn’t vote at all as a form of “protest.”
As a non US person I’m baffled at the amount of guys that went “Kamala wouldn’t win so I didn’t vote”
Saddest of it all is that it was white guys the most so they basically face no consequencesA lot of others online said, “since Kamala will support Israel, I’m not voting at all.” Lack of democratic action.
There is no such thing as Democracy in the US system, and voting Kamala without agreeing with her would have nothing to do with “democratic action” - in that duopolist power structure at most voting Kamala as the “lesser evil” was short/mid-term risk reduction: understandable, but let’s not call such a “you have no actual choice” action “democratic”.
No argument here. Just wanted to give people outside the US a little more perspective. The lack of democratic action started with the Democratic party. They didn’t even pretend to have a primary election. Ofc, most people I know won’t participate in those anyway.
Can’t help wondering how many stone cold rapists and paedophiles are out there pretending to be ICE and kidnapping people.
Perfect opportunity for them. Even worse are organized hate groups like KKK and friends
Some of those that work forces…
Could pretending to be ICE be a useful guerilla tactic?
Seems to be working for ICE
Ted Bundy pretended to be a detective to try to lure at least one girl, but thankfully she escaped. How many others weren’t that lucky?
We might see a brief resurgence in serial killers if they start to realize this is a valid tactic, and this shit will get ICE agents shot because many people carry guns specifically for over the top scenarios like these.
I sure as hell would start shooting. In Canada, if someone was actually trying to kidnap someone like that and the victim fired back, their shooting would be justified. They would still go to jail for years for illegally carrying a gun but the actual shooting would be justified. There is precedent for this in Canadian law.
I rather suspect ICE agents are also carrying guns for that scenario.
Everyone in the US has a gun…
I think the serial killers just got smart and took official positions where they can do horrible shit with the government’s blessing
It’s safest to assume it’s all of them without exception.
A lot more than any republican would every be willing to admit.
Here are some example of different impersonations:
What is most disturbing is that most of those are chaotic, disorganized impersonators who therefore got caught.
There are probably calm, professional-looking adults doing this and flying under the radar.
Exactly. Many criminals who do terrible crimes get caught because they panic and make dumb mistakes in fits of anxiety (criminals are humans, too, and like many humans in very high pressure situations, especially ones where your entire life is at stake if you fuck up, they crack).
But… a calm psycho or someone who really prepared well for it? That is scary as all hell.
