• TooManyFoods@lemmy.world
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    Don’t historians say she probably wasn’t sexy? Just super bold which attracted powerful men, who hasn’t seen much of that back then.

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      Cesar sang praises to her mouth, which could be interpreted to be about her actual mouth, her oratory skills, or her oral skills. Knowing how Romans loved innuendo, probably both.

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      She was a powerful personality. All the records indicate that she was of seemingly above average beauty standards, but nothing earth shattering.

      Instead, it is claimed that her strength of personality is what attracted the powerful men in her life to her.

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      She had access to creams, ointments and fragrances and good sleep. She also kept ugly ass lady servants to keep the contrast in her favor.

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      One theory is that she was a bit odd-looking, but pointing that out would likely result in a painful death, so everybody erred on the side of flattery.

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      Yeah, it is the exact opposite of what OP claims. Historians are basically the only ones constantly demystifying her, while her legend as a sexy femme fatale lives on in the general public mind (thanks pretty much exclusively to Hollywood, because let’s face it, noone would know she existed without them).

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    Stable and prosperous? She started with a civil war and ended by being conquered by Rome. The bit in the middle wasn’t stable either.

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      Getting conquered by Rome is just what you do when you live by their sea.

      But yes, it was, all things are relative, and one can’t blame the beach for the tsunami.

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      It looks to be written by Arsinoë IV or maybe even Ptolemy XIV as it refers to «my brother», so it’s probably biased

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      3 Antony, on the contrary, like Heracles in paintings where Omphalé is seen taking away his club and stripping off his lion’s skin, was often disarmed by Cleopatra, subdued by her spells, 957and persuaded to  p339 drop from his hands great undertakings and necessary campaigns, only to roam about and play with her on the sea-shores by Canopus and Taphosiris. 4 And at last, like Paris, he ran away from the battle and sank upon her bosom; although, more truly stated, Paris ran away to Helen’s chamber after he had been defeated; but Antony ran away in chase of Cleopatra, and thereby threw away the victory.

      Plutarch was a bit of both, but that tendency has definitely existed longer than movies.

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    I agree all those things are hot as f.

    Talk to me more stabilization of the region baby in any of those 9 languages.

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    I do find it hilarious that we associate sexiness with Cleopatra because of an intensive smear campaign.

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      She probably was legitimately attractive by Roman cultural norms and almost certainly leveraged that when dealing with Rome. The smear campaign was more playing that aspect up while downplaying the fact she was a genuine once-in-a-generation genius than making up things about how sexy she was.

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        Yes, Chariots of the Gods. It was made into a series called Stargate. It should be shown in schools IMO

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    Why did they use a pipe instead of the letter I?

    | Don’t like it.

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    Nah, it is the other way around. Historians would say those facts, and Hollywood and possibly general media would be the ones saying “sexy”.