Don’t historians say she probably wasn’t sexy? Just super bold which attracted powerful men, who hasn’t seen much of that back then.
Cesar sang praises to her mouth, which could be interpreted to be about her actual mouth, her oratory skills, or her oral skills. Knowing how Romans loved innuendo, probably both.
She was a powerful personality. All the records indicate that she was of seemingly above average beauty standards, but nothing earth shattering.
Instead, it is claimed that her strength of personality is what attracted the powerful men in her life to her.
She had access to creams, ointments and fragrances and good sleep. She also kept ugly ass lady servants to keep the contrast in her favor.
One theory is that she was a bit odd-looking, but pointing that out would likely result in a painful death, so everybody erred on the side of flattery.
to be fair a weird looking powerful warrior woman would give me a fucking boner of steel
This is basically how half my women ancestors got husbands, as a result I look like someone tried recreating a neanderthal and ended up with a Norse-Gael.
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True. She was more seductive and alluring than plain ol sexy (according to my readings).
Yeah, it is the exact opposite of what OP claims. Historians are basically the only ones constantly demystifying her, while her legend as a sexy femme fatale lives on in the general public mind (thanks pretty much exclusively to Hollywood, because let’s face it, noone would know she existed without them).
Stable and prosperous? She started with a civil war and ended by being conquered by Rome. The bit in the middle wasn’t stable either.
Getting conquered by Rome is just what you do when you live by their sea.
But yes, it was, all things are relative, and one can’t blame the beach for the tsunami.
It looks to be written by Arsinoë IV or maybe even Ptolemy XIV as it refers to «my brother», so it’s probably biased
It’s because of historians you those things about Cleopatra
Why don’t you share these great history memes on historymemes?
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The average person thinks Hollywood producers = historians.
Was it historians who were saying Cleopatra was sexy or filmmakers?
3 Antony, on the contrary, like Heracles in paintings where Omphalé is seen taking away his club and stripping off his lion’s skin, was often disarmed by Cleopatra, subdued by her spells, 957and persuaded to p339 drop from his hands great undertakings and necessary campaigns, only to roam about and play with her on the sea-shores by Canopus and Taphosiris. 4 And at last, like Paris, he ran away from the battle and sank upon her bosom; although, more truly stated, Paris ran away to Helen’s chamber after he had been defeated; but Antony ran away in chase of Cleopatra, and thereby threw away the victory.
Plutarch was a bit of both, but that tendency has definitely existed longer than movies.
Plutarch was a bit of a filmmaker?
He was the 200 ce version of one, anyway.

I agree all those things are hot as f.
Talk to me more stabilization of the region baby in any of those 9 languages.
I do find it hilarious that we associate sexiness with Cleopatra because of an intensive smear campaign.
we will ruin your reputation by making you the greatest slay queen in human history…
Fr lol she’s like a step down from the Greek and Roman goddesses in her reputation, if anything their attempt to smear her put her on a pedestal.
it’s funny when one culture misogyny makes their insults fail.
She probably was legitimately attractive by Roman cultural norms and almost certainly leveraged that when dealing with Rome. The smear campaign was more playing that aspect up while downplaying the fact she was a genuine once-in-a-generation genius than making up things about how sexy she was.
I would like to know more please.
Why are there pipes (“|”) in the text? It’s throwing me
|'m guessing it’s to spur engagement.
And, we fell for |t.
so SPOKE command gets the output from CLEOPATRA:
It’s the letter “i” but double capitalized.
my take is that they’re trying to do the “>text” to indicate that is an action rather than words, but it formatted to a quote box
>this is what was meant
this is what happened
that’s my guess tho idk
I think the quotation block only ever appears in the beginning of a line.
But she really, really wasn’t. And she wasn’t even Egyptian, she was Macedonia Greek (and it shows).

OP, you might want to read an actual history book or three.
Have they made any of them into movies?
Yes, Chariots of the Gods. It was made into a series called Stargate. It should be shown in schools IMO
Why did they use a pipe instead of the letter I?
| Don’t like it.
|’m glad |’m not the only one annoyed by that.
Because you would start talking about it
Yeah one of the fist ways I learned to create engagement was to fake typos / make simple grammer mistakes.
*mistokies
Well done
Thanks… I… I love you <3
It really helps with engagement, and | fell for it.
I didn’t realize that was supposed to be an I, | thought it was being used like asterisks to indicate action.
that’s what I think it’s supposed to be, but then the middle one is missing the | so who knows
It’s not meant to be an I, it’s meant to be an action. They’re not writing “I commanded an army”, they’re writing “commanded an army”.
No, it was not a good choice. But that’s what they were probably doing.
Then it would’ve been “against her brother” though, not “against my brother”
Honestly, my brain just didn’t even process it as an I. I just looked over it and started the sentences without them.
Anyway, why the fuck did they do that?
The historians had to lay that pipe somewhere
Nah, it is the other way around. Historians would say those facts, and Hollywood and possibly general media would be the ones saying “sexy”.
What can I say, competence is sexy, excellence even moreso
“Catherine the Great was great because she fucked a horse.”
Nono you don’t get it, she wanted to be the horse.
I mean, how many other women can say they’ve done the same?




















