It means they’re having bareback sex and the man orgasms while inside her.

It should not be tolerated at the workplace. I’m forced to listen to this rhetoric because my shift isn’t done yet, and I can’t leave without getting fired. I’m forced into a sexual discussion without consent, and it’s so graphically disgusting that I feel nauseous.

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    It means they’re having bareback sex and the man orgasms while inside her.

    Did you just find this out? Welcome to humanity. Every human being around you also farts, shits, and pisses too. That means if they excuse themselves to go to the bathroom that they very well may be creating a devastatingly disgusting mountain of shit covered in blood and bowel mucus that would humble Shrek himself. Does that mean someone excusing themselves to the bathroom is disgusting too?

    You are focusing on .000000001% of what actually “trying for a baby” entails. It’s not just the act of sex. It’s the acceptance of two loving people that they are attempting to change their lives forever and be responsible for a child. It’s letting other people know that a life change is coming and expect an emotional roller coaster. For YOU to focus on the sex aspect is actually kind of weird.

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      Thanks for the response. If a gay coworker described bareback sex to you, would you find it work-appropriate? Please answer.

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        Talk about sex is inappropriate regardless of orientation. A person explaining that they are at a point in their life that they are ready for or attempting to have a child is odd, in my opinion, but not inappropriate. Again, YOU are relating this to sex, not them.

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        Did they describe the sex though? Like came up to you and, unsolicited, said “OMG my husband shot such a big load inside me!”, or did they just say they were trying to have a baby?

        When someone says they are going to lunch do you say “eew, you are going to chew that food with all that saliva and then swallow it, and it’s gonna travel through your digestive system and then you are going to poop? Why are you telling me this?”

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        Why are you upset? I think you’re mad because gay people don’t want to hear about straight sex practices. Please answer this question.

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          Are they going into detail about their sex or did they just say they were trying to have a baby?

          If it’s only the latter then it’s about as inappropriate as women showing their bare ankles in public and you may be overreacting just a tad.

          ETA: please answer this question.

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          Pff dude you think when you say that you are gay, that you have a pure platonic relationship where you wear gloves to hold hands?

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          Lol wat?

          The sentiment is anti social. If you don’t want hear people talking about something, go stand somewhere else.

          I highly doubt anybody holding you still and forcing you to hear about all that disgusting heterosexual sex.

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    People also say this when they are doing IVF and other fertility treatments. In fact every time I have heard this it involved fertility treatment because otherwise they just announce they are expecting.

    It means they’re having bareback sex and the man orgasms while inside her.

    Most of the time announcing a pregnancy or even just seeing kids at the park also means someone had sweaty bareback sex. Is it only bad when they announce it before the pregnancy?

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    What if they are trying to have a baby through in vitro fertilization? Your mind is what’s immediately going to sex. If someone is being more graphic in their description and talking about raw dogging and how often, then I think you have a case.

    I don’t want to hear about people trying for kids either but I personally don’t care and just don’t engage in the conversation.

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    If someone uses that occasion to turn to you and ask if you’re ever going to have a kid, just respond with “not unless I’ve got ovaries on my tonsils!” And then somehow that’s a visit with HR.

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    Sounds like something Hank Hill would get upset about.

    “I’m going to go number 2” - Disgusting and graphic.

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    here’s the thing i don’t know if many consider: being able to announce to an entire room full of strangers that you are having unprotected penetrative vaginal sex for the purpose of procreation is a unique experience only straight people are allowed to have. if i, as a gay person, merely make mention of my same-sex love life it may be seen as me “shoving it in everyone’s faces” or “inappropriate,” because the sex i have is pointless and therefore not worthy of the same kind of social acknowledgment. it’s frustrating to hear straight people say shit like “yeah we’re trying for a baby” because all i want to do is tell people i’m going to spend the weekend cuddled up with my boyfriend and i often can’t.

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      You’re changing “trying to have a baby” to “unprotected vaginal sex” which is not what’s being said, and comparing that to you saying “cuddling your BF”. If you immediately jump to the specific details about them having sex, that’s a you problem and kinda fucked up.

      If you want to say you’re cuddling your BF this weekend, and people are upset about it, put them on the spot and ask why. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that statement. Publicly shame people for their bigotry, and maybe they’ll grow up or at least shut up.

      I’m not gay. I worked in manufacturing for almost a decade, and those environments tend to attract a certain demographic of people. One June I put a rainbow flag up on my desk and it stayed there until I left the company. One of my favorite past times was pressuring people who made back handed comments to explain them. Admittedly, I grew up in a small town with 3 black people and no out gay people. It took me a minute to get comfortable with something that I grew up thinking was disgusting because of my surroundings. I fortunately didn’t have to be shamed into change, just exposure was enough, but there are others that will never get there on their own.

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        what are you talking about? tell me what “trying for a baby” means if not having PIV sex lol. hey buddy, you don’t know how it is to be gay in the workplace, so maybe don’t tell me what i should or shouldn’t do when my livelihood is on the line. think about your privilege here and who you are talking to. my point was this: people can make statements that IMPLY they are having sex with each other but i can’t be assured my statement of merely cuddling with my boyfriend won’t get me harassed or made to feel othered.

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          I think that if you immediately jump to PIV sex, that’s fucked up. Grow up, be an adult. That’s it. Other than that, take control of your own life. You don’t like people putting you down for being gay? Don’t put up with it. Stick up for yourself, or don’t. Idgaf.

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              Someone is starting a family? Someone is going through an emotional situation? Someone is going getting IVF? There’s a lot more to having a child than fucking. Again, the fact that your mind immediately jumps to that conclusion and further that it grosses you out is extremely juvenile. There are 5th graders learning about sex ed that handle the notion of PIV sex better than you, who I assume is an adult.

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                that is a fair point. it’s a sore subject for me, unfortunately. i may not have approached the topic in the right head space having grown up experiencing shame for simply being attracted to the same gender. i’d watch couples smile and laugh together and say, “we’re trying for a baby,” clearly implying what i was describing, and the room just reacting positively and encouragingly. you see that over and over and you can’t help but develop a negative connection to the phrase. what you said is of course true. i don’t react with disgust towards anyone, so at least i’m not making my discomfort known, but you’ve given me something to mull over and try to correct. sometimes you forget that you aren’t being attacked anymore when it’s all you’ve been used to.

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                  NGL, I don’t think that this was the response I was expecting. If you’re being sincere, then I apologize for the hostility in what I’ve said. I got heated and said some things that are harsh. I know that as a straight caucasian male that I come from a place of privilege, and it’s definitely easier to say something than it is to do something.

                  It’s difficult for me to wrap my head around the idea that talking about pregnancy can be a trigger in this sense, but I do empathize with your situation. When I said I grew up in a small down with no out gay people, that was true. Within a year of me graduating, at least 5 maybe a couple more of my class of around 70 came out. One of them definitely went through some shit in school, because kids can be awful. I can proudly say I wasn’t one of the bullies, but you’d have to live under a rock to not see it happening. I have no doubts that that can have a slew of possible effects that carry on into adulthood.

                  That’s a lot of words to say, I hope that if you’re going through some stuff or still fighting demons, that you find your way and live a happy life with the partner of your choosing.

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      Correct. Thanks for understanding. And I’m sorry. Hopefully someday we’ll reach real inclusion. Best of luck to you and your family

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      being able to announce to an entire room full of strangers that you are having unprotected penetrative vaginal sex for the purpose of procreation is a unique experience only straight people are allowed to have.

      y lesbian coworker announced she was trying to have a baby, which was through IVF. That doesn’t include the raw dogging part, but it does meet the announcing to a room part.

      Do straight people normally announce how they are trying? Everyone I know that said they were trying were doing fertility treatments that involved doctors doing an insemination instead of raw dogging it.

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      By OP’s logic, you shouldn’t be able to tell anyone you are pregnant or that you have children because that eludes to the fact that at one point you’ve had sex. Next HR is going to remove the bathrooms from the office, because it assumes that people are pissing somewhere.

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        You probably also shouldn’t mention that you have a mother or a father because that forces OP to picture your parents doing the deed to make you. Same goes for siblings and grandparents.

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      I agree, knowing other people have sex is absolutely fine, in fact I assume it as default for basically any adult in a relationship. Not using protection may be unwise in almost all cases, but trying for a baby with a partner is the main exception, and it’s never been gross.

      I understand that a lot of people have been raised with shame, and I feel a certain pity for them, but I’m not a fan of treating this shame as righteous.

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      Yeah I have 3 kids, never once did I go around telling people that I was trying to have kids. Of course I wasn’t trying they just happen naturally.

      Never understood that trying to have a baby thing. Seems weird to me. I assume all married couples either on birth control or having bareback sex. But then again don’t hang around people who dicuss their sex life either.

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        More people than you might expect don’t find it easy to conceive. That wasn’t my experience (if anything it was “too quick”) but I think sometimes people are asking you to hope/pray or whatever that they can make it happen.

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          Yeah everyone of my kids was conceived quickly. Why their mother got me fixed after the 3rd. I hated the pullout method and she didn’t want anymore kids with me lol.

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    Yeah, no one needs to know your fella is rawdogging you regularly. Telling us when you’re actually pregnant makes more sense.

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    The phrase “we’re trying for a baby” communicates the intent to start a family without eliciting unwanted images of raw dog cream pies. That is why we use it. If you are having these thoughts about your coworkers from this phrase, I submit that you are the problem.

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      No, he hates pussy, and anything that makes him think of pussy, honestly Dan Savage (famous advice gay) has the same hang up. I respect it.