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Hey guys, there is a lot of troll baiting in this thread. You’ve been doing a great job of not falling for it, so I’m not going to lock it. Newbies to this thread, check the times of when it was made and if it brings up the distant past a lot, those are good clues. Leave one comment at most to save everyone’s sanity.
That ship has sailed decades ago. The US hasn’t been officially at war since 1945, and the congress has for all intents and purposes gave up on that power.
The speed Congress gave up their constitutional powers to avoid repurcusions for having opinions and voting for them is crazy. But I guess being able to give yourself a raise every year for doing nothing is tempting.
To be fair to the US Congress (AFAIK) no one as been formally at war since 1945 - and unless I’m forgetting anything it would actually make the US Congress the last ones to declare war on anyone.
Since WW2 everything is framed as a peacekeeping mission (when approved even if only implicitly by the UN Security Council), a civil war, helping the legitimate government in a civil war (US in Vietnam or Soviet Union in Afghanistan for example), or when every other excuse fails a pre-emptive special military operation (US in Iraq, Russia in Ukraine, Israel in all of their neighbours + Iran).
And this is a good thing. Declarations of war makes war a legitimate thing. In the past it was a noble and goodly thing to do, all of the correct paperwork has been submitted and so now it’s good and proper for you to go over there and kill those people that have different uniforms.
Also a declaration of war means going from 0 to 100 on everything. There’s no escalation and also no de-escalation. Probably not a good thing to instantly go 0 to 100 once nuclear weapons became a thing.
People often decry how war is no longer a legitimate thing because there’s no longer declarations of war. The reality is, war never was a legitimate thing. Declarations of war were just powerful people making the act of sending people out to kill and be killed seem legitimate.
Yes, the “special operations” and “coalitions of the willing” stuff is bullshit. But so were declarations of war. It’s better you think about whether a military action is actually needed rather than believing a war is proper simply because the people in power did the paperwork correctly.
Declarations of war are bad, but they were made hard to do in modern states. Almost every single countries have rules and procedures in place to make sure a hot head can’t do it over the weekend.
“Special Military Operations” undid all those efforts by putting all the powers back in the hands of a single person.
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Classic war just doesn’t have any appeal these days
The actual purpose of congress is to violently enforce capitalism by rubber stamping imperialism, policing, prisons, etc.
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lemmy.world has the reputation of spinning around an answer and never getting to it.
AIPAC is in charge of both reds and blues when it comes to foreign policy and even some parts of the internal policy.
The corruption of our nation is absolute.
The president is a Nazi.
Thr people working for him are Nazis.
They are carrying out a Nazi agenda.
They are illegally starting wars illegally kidnapping Americans and illegally using our own armed forces against us.
The time for resistance is passed.
It’s time for survival.
Pretty sure it’s time for FOOTBALL !!! amirite
It’s baseball season.
some type of ball
What if ice is occupying your town’s stadium?
They tried that shit. Dodgers told them to get fucked.
They don’t want that smoke in the dodger stadium parking lot.
Ice shows up it’ll be dangerous.
For them.
Dodger stadium parking lot is gigantic and lawless.
Ice wouldn’t make it out alive.
That’s why dodgers had LAPD escort them out.
For their own protection.
Hockey?
No. No this is about the time for resistance. We shouldn’t just skip that one
Exactly. I’m so tired of this doomer “we’ve tried nothing and it hasn’t worked” stance on the Trump regime. RESIST, people!
To be fair, we’ve tried a lot of things. Compliance, assistance, book licking, collaborating…
Lol. Indeed.
If that dude knew how to fucking aim
Then every president should be impeached. Dem leadership wouldn’t pursue this because they know it puts some of their own at risk
What? Democrat presidents aren’t at risk of impeachment? You mean like Bill Clinton?! lmfao and they weren’t trying to do the same to Obama and Biden for their entire terms? But they won’t do it to the next one as long as Trump isn’t impeached for a 3rd time?
Bill Clinton raped his intern
Correct but Clinton was impeached for perjury and being a Democrat. Republicans are pro-rape.
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Every president that I can remember (starting with Reagan) should have been impeached and later prosecuted for war crimes.
Twice!
We’ve had first impeachment, yes. But what about second impeachment?
We also had that! What about third impeachment?
Who cares? He was inoeached before already and it literally did NOTHING
Wake me up when this bullshit is actually over, all this “oohh, THIS will end him for sure!” every week is tiring
reddit cares
Fuck it, impeach him every single fucking day; he’s got enough crimes for it. Lock up congress and make the GOP cult show up every day and bend the knee to the orange fascist instead of doing a single thing for the US.
Also people in democratic leadership roles should start prosecuting his minions. ICE arresting legal citizens? Straight to jail. Barring lawmakers from detention facilities? Believe it or not, straight to jail.
Pointing cops at ICE - suddenly I don’t care that US cops are trigger happy
I completely agree.
However, this is exactly what he wants. The more tired we all become of his bullshit and the more we wave it away then the more bullshit he pulls, and gets away with.If someone, anyone, had given him any consequences to his actions over the past few decades he wouldn’t be like he is. If just one person took him outside and beat the living fuck out of him then I feel things would be different.
Things definitely wouldn’t be like they are now. They may not be much better, but they would be better.Again, I agree it’s tiring. But I also think we shouldn’t give up.
So I hope you, and anyone who reads this, starts to feel less of “this is tiring!” And more of “this is tiring l… but we can’t let that rich obese orange rapist drag me down and get away with it!”Don’t give up!! Fight him. Pull him up on every single thing and ridicule him.
Ah yes, I remember Obama getting impeached for bombing Syria.
And for that matter, Trump getting impeached for killing Soleimani, the leader of Iran, while he was in Iraq.
Soleimani was the commander of the Quds Force, a division of the Iranian military and high-ranking official but he wasn’t the leader of Iran.
Oh, you mean like how he was impeached in his first term in office and nothing changed?
Both impeachments were acquitted by the Senate after the House passed them.
Point taken, but I don’t see it going any differently this time around.
Nope. Its theater.
The cop at the protest yawns, unslings his 40mm LMT™ weapon, loads another rubber bullet into it, looks around the crowd for another reporter, aims, and shoots her in the head.
Idealistic youngling: “Wow, that cop just shot a woman in the head with a rubber bullet, he could totally be charged for that!”
After “shoots her in the head” you forgot “poses for the cameras”
Americans are cowards. Period.
The constitutional right to be ARMED TO THE TEETH and they’re all pissing their pants in fear of… losing their jobs? They literally sat there, watched the worst of humanity seize power, and spent their political capital trying to limit their ability to fight back.
They deserve whatever they get.
It certainly looks as though they’ve pretty thoroughly shat the bed. I suspect they fell for their own propaganda about all the freedom and how they’re the best country in the world etc, forgot that those are just words.
To Americans, their national heroes are just Disney characters without families, jobs, or dreams who never actually had anything to lose and whose victories were guaranteed.
The problems, the House and Senate are controlled by the Russian supporting MAGA clowns. I believe Mango Mussolini has a 60 day window before he needs to end the military engagement against Iran. For the moment, a drunk, a felon and Signal App are controlling the US military.
Can anyone explain what happened to the articles of impeachment that were introduced a few months ago?
Not happening. Next quotum
We haven’t declared war since WW2. Everything has been AUMF, which can be done within 60 days retroactively. As always, the government is checks and balances, so if Congress refuses to exercise its powers and let the executive do whatever, it’s a moot point.
I think it’d only lead to impeachment if Congress wants us gone within 60 days and Trump refuses, continues without an AUMF, and then Congress actually had the balls to push back at that point.
But if someone is more familiar with the legal processes involved here, please do correct me or add to this.
