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ByteOnBikes@discuss.online to People Twitter@sh.itjust.works · 1 year ago

Somebody is lying, and so far, it's constantly been Republicans

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Somebody is lying, and so far, it's constantly been Republicans

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ByteOnBikes@discuss.online to People Twitter@sh.itjust.works · 1 year ago
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Source https://xcancel.com/AOC/status/1937186054307742144#m

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    To be… Uh… Fair??? they didn’t say “terrorist” in that tweet.

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      Then why was he arrested?

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        Because fascists don’t care about the law? What even is this question?

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          The party line is that he is a terrorist. It is implied by the arrest, not by the tweet.

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            I know they think he’s a terrorist, but I just wanted to point out that technically the tweet never actually calls him a terrorist or Hamas or anything of the sort. It’s more of a minor nitpick than anything.

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              I know they think he’s a terrorist

              Do they? According to Marco Rubio, he supports terrorists, but that isn’t the same thing.

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              I would argue AOC was addressing the situation generally, rather than the tweet specifically.

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                That’s fair. As I said I was nitpicking, not making any sort of serious argument.

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            They never implied that he’s a terrorist, only that he supports terrorists.

            • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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              Arresting him says otherwise.

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                What reason did they give for arresting him?

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                  Department of Homeland Security accused him of “leading activities aligned to Hamas”

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      AOC prescribes to the idea that Hamas is exclusively a terrorist group.

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        Terrorism is just a propaganda word for common military strategies, which “civilized” nations like to pretend they don’t do.

        EVERY nation with a military is automatically a terrorist organization by definition. That’s literally the primary job of the military - to terrify the opponent into surrendering, or not getting froggy in the first place.

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          Warfare is when a western country does it, terrorism is when an enemy of the US does it.

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        Fair, but they said “Hamas supporter,” not just “Hamas”. I’m just nitpicking, but yeah.

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        Question honestly from a place of ignorance: is it not?

        I don’t know much about that group other than the attack a couple years ago. I do know that IDF is a terrorist org because they’re currently committing a genocide.*

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          Hamas is the government of the Gaza strip. They have a military and they do military operations. If you call them terrorists, you might hold that same opinion about other governments

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            Joke’s on you, I already thought most governments were terrorist organizations ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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              based

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            I mean… Yeah, a lot of governments are.

            In any case that shouldn’t justify the genocide of those countries’ civilians.

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            Hmmmm I won’t call them terrorists then but I DO hold that opinion about many other governments, especially the US hahaha

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            i don’t consider Hamas to be a legitimate government since they haven’t held any elections in Gaza since 2006, nor do they provide services or international negotiations. Fatah, comparatively, is a legitimate government but lacks the ability to resist Israeli genocide

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              Israel has not allowed any elections in Gaza since 2006* FTFY

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                I think this might be a legitimate use of “both sides” but I don’t know enough about them to say for sure.

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                  One side has all of the power and uses it to make elections illegal 🤷

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                    Fair point!

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          Lol at that genuine typo

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            Oh dear hahaha. I’m glad folks got what I meant, at least!

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