It would be nice if tipping was just gone, and everybody got paid a living wage, like in most of the rest of the world. We’re in a Nash equilibrium right now where if you don’t tip, you’re an asshole. Other people might even tip more if they hear about it, which reinforces the status quo. So I keep tipping well, and disliking that we’re stuck here.

How can we end tipping culture and just have everyone be paid a living wage?

  • andrewta@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Helps that I tip in cash. The server doesn’t have to tell the boss that I gave the server a tip.

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        6 months ago

        Well, then provide good service.

        It’s not a hard concept.

        Let me explain what good service is for those you don’t understand. Let’s say I order a burger fries and a Pepsi with no ice. AndI want the burger, medium rare. But they bring it out well done. It would be awfully hard for them to realize it was well . So I would not ding them on the tip. As long as they were pleasant when they brought it out, they’d get a decent tip.

        Same scenario but they’re rude when they come out. Well guess what they were rude probably no tip. Yeah, it’s supposed to hurt to get no tip.Provide good service. You get a good tip. That’s how it works.

        Let’s say that I said no onions on my burger, but I want onion rings. And then there’s onions on the burger while I’m going look at this from a reasonable standpoint. Could they have reasonably known there was onions on that burger realistically? Sometimes when they bring the burger out, the top of the bun is already on top of the burger, so the onion might be hidden. Obviously, I would not ding them for that. But let’s say instead of onion rings they brought french fries. Well, that’s just not paying attention. Yeah they’re getting dinged on the tip. It’s supposed to hurt that’s the point.

        Provide good service you get a tip. You go above and beyond , your extra nice. You over hear what we’re talking about at the table and realize hey maybe there’s something else on the menu that we didn’t spot that ties in with what we’re talking about and you offer that. That’s going above and beyond. Probably getting a better tip.

        I’m not sure how people are confused on this conversation and somehow people think that the tip is mandatory. The tip is never mandatory. I care what people want to believe or think or feel. It ain’t mandatory.

        • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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          6 months ago

          I’m not sure how people are confused on this conversation

          Probably because you can’t keep your own point straight.

          You started off here:

          I only tip if I got very good service. Something above and beyond

          And now you’ve moved here

          Provide good service you get a tip. You go above and beyond… Probably getting a better tip.

          Which is it? Do you only tip for very good, above and beyond service? Or do you tip for good service, and tip more for going above and beyond? Those are very different claims.

          Good service is doing your job: take the order in a timely and friendly manner, correct any kitchen mistakes. That deserves a tip. Above and beyond service deserves a higher tip. Rude or otherwise bad service deserves a lower tip, none at all of service is bad enough.

          If you’re not tipping for competent service because they didn’t sufficiently supplicate themselves before you, you’re just giving yourself an asshole discount.