I can only hope …
Yo if telling yourselves that headline is what it takes to get you dudes out there to vote for the DNC so they can get to ending Citizens United, creating fair elections maps, taxing the rich, and expanding medical coverage: power to you. Let’s go!
Is it though? Or is it wishful thinking?
Dems are cooked. Nobody is buying the old guard bullshit anymore. Embrace populism or go the way of the Whigs
Maybe, probably. They are going to gamble that they can stay the same because people are/will be so mad about… well everything.
They can prop up a white male moderate with an ounce of charisma, someone that is around 45. People will be refreshed that this candidate speaks in complete sentences and the capacity for empathy – like a real person.
That’s what they want, business as usual sold as a revolutionary idea. Will people buy it? Who knows… groups of people are pretty dumb.
None of us are as dumb as all of us.
They are going to gamble that they can stay the same because people are/will be so mad about… well everything.
They will 100% try to do this, but they’ll end up losing and then blame the voters they’re maligning. Mamdani is a case-in-point difference between status quo candidate turnouts and progressive candidate turnout. The 7% delta over Cuomo is the 7% they’ll lose if they try it again.
We’ve been waiting for your participation and votes in the Democratic Party. Its great to see people start taking part no matter what brings them on board. If you are excited about this consider joining your local Democratic party, every few years we re-elect everyone from the precinct all the way to the DNC. Check with your State Democratic party for more info.
If your intention is to bring new people into the Democratic party, you’re doing a terrible job. And if it isn’t and you just want to be condescending to straw men online, maybe don’t tie that sort of attitude to the party. You can just be dickish in a personal capacity.
You guys can’t even give proper credit and ensure candidates anyone left of “not as fascist as the other party.”
Eta: and sue to keep third party candidates off the ballots in swing states
We need a future where money doesn’t decide politics and appreciate the work to make this an election decided on the issue. Its great day and with a great candidate winning. Having people get involved in their local party can help efforts to better align the party.
The issue about third party candidates might be a little mute in New York which is one of the last few states that has fusion voting in General elections. Its an intersting effort that allows other parties to nominate a candidate or endorse another parties candidate if they align. Seeing that Zohran Mamdani is a DSA member, its one of the voting methods that helped elect Socialist to office at the turn of the last century. Glad New York retains an intersting voting method and that former Governor Andrew Cuomo didn’t succeed in ruining that legacy.
Even if you are more interested in DSA it is still worth joining the local party. I believe the DSA support the “Dirty Break” method to build off the Democrat party line and use that as leverage if they or their policies were to be pushed out.
This is NOT true! The ONLY Reason he Won was because we DIDNT have Elon Musk Backing us or make our Platform CLEAR enough! Next time we’ll spend BILLIONS of Dollars LETTING people know we WONT do ANYTHING to Improve Their Lives! THAT will bring them RUSHING back to Us!
-Chuck Schumer and The DNC!
No. AOC was.
AOC is going to need allies and a progressive coalition. We need to change the composition of the party from within in exactly this way. We just need way more of it.
I’m sure the problem caused by a two-party system can be fixed by adhering to a two-party system
The two party system is a symptom of the actual cause.
RCV undermines the necessity for a partisan vote. That’s why Cuomo - the party establishment pick - lost by 8 points to a local outsider with better politics and a cleaner reputation.
But I agree, at some point, you do need to support someone. And if that someone is part of a large political organization (aka a party) they can bring a lot of financial and labor resources to bare when organizing and implementing political reforms. In the case of New York City, which is functionally a one party municipality (Dems regularly swamp the GOP 2:1), Zohran’s entrance to the statewide political scene is a huge break from the traditional partisan politics that gave us Eric Adams and threatened to give us four more years of a corrupt, real estate entwined sex pest.
The fact that he’s got a large, active, well-financed DSA behind him - in a way that transformed a coronation into a competitive primary - is a huge point in his favor.
God I hope so.
Hopefully the pendulum swings back hard after this fucking year.
Narrator: (just audible tears.)
Republicans will control the supreme court for the next 20 years. We will see couple of resignations soon so they can appoint younger, crazier judges. Hopefully progressive democrats will be able to stop the slide towards dictatorship but I don’t except any swinging back.
Allow me to introduce you to my friend court packing.
But also in terms of things like Roe, all we need to fix that is a law passed through congress. The court would have no constitutional basis challenging it at that point. If they did it loops back around to justifying court packing.
I like your optimism.
I wouldn’t say optimism. There’s historical precedent for this. Whether or not it will happen I have no idea.
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Lets see if you get a President Mamdani in a decade or two. It would be a change for the better.
He can’t run for president since he wasn’t born American.
That is a downside, indeed.
Nonetheless, I seriously hope he has the impact on American politics he deserves. Maybe he is the GOP-killer the US so desperately needs.
Assuming it’s not another bait and switch Dem like Fetterman and Sinema.
I fervently hope so.
Be honest. Had you guys heard of In These Times or The Institute for Public Affairs before seeing this post?
The latter no, but the former yes. I’ve seen their articles floating around here.
Uh, yeah? Inthesetimes is posted all the time. Had you not?
I’m not sure why you’re linking to that non-profit. Are they the owners? It’s there any reason you’d expect people to recognize them?
time to tell everyone NY democrats to “Vote blue no matter who”
From your lips to the ears of Elpis.
Ehhh zorhan primary win is more like first big hurtle. Now ZOHRAN has to deal with belligerent part of democratic party and independent runs
He already has, up to this point. In fact, big parts of the party tried to support his competition. They failed. He’s another in AOC mould. He may be good or great but there is an increasing trickle of progressive candidates.
The more that win by being good the more that can win without being so good. He may not be the Dems saviour but he’s a step in the right direction and a worrying sign for Republicans and establishment politicians.
Yeah I’m just saying there’s a lot more to go even in this race alone. Just because ZOHRAN WON the primary that doesn’t mean the Democrats leadership will be happy about it
Indeed, they dusted off big Bill Clinton even.
When I hear that Clinton endorsed a canidate my first thought was, who cares. That guy hasn’t been in office for over 25 years now. Talk about irrelevant
Its the Dem tradition of hierarchy, nepotism, and dynasty-slurping
It’s not for us, it’s for wealthier donors.
