This is ridiculous. Have people seen the recent AI code review from Audacity?? This whole AI bubble needs to burst already.
Got me curious, spill the tea sister!
To sum up, its the tale as old as time (~2023), an llm being entirely useless for a task that could be done by other tooling perfectly.
Edit: a word
Did AI tell you to use “tail” there?
No, that was good old fashioned human stupidity, fixing.
They must really want their workforce to be less efficient while dramatically lowering quality and security across the board.
Hackers are about to have a golden era
Slopsquatting is already taking off
They are banking on the AI will eventually be smart enough that it will replace the workers that fed it.
They should have just invested in NFTs instead.
except programmers are gonna continue with what they were already doing, at most putting a script on copilot to get the metrics
don’t forget that if you don’t turn in the project in time you’re fired, the issues always get thrown at the coder, it’s never the company’s fault
Company I’m at also does the forced AI and it’s all but mandatory now. Problem is as code monkeys we’re past the point of heading down to the Winchester for a pint until it blows over. They’re pushing so hard in order to “not fall behind” that you literally can’t escape it. I think even malicious compliance won’t cut it. And when 8/10 companies that dictate the market say that “this is the future”, then this is the future they’ll make whether we like it or not.
Edit: the silver lining is that we’re working with tools that are better than copilot at generating menial work like generating boilerplate code, unit tests, release notes, walls of text for app documentation etc.
release notes and app documentation:
memes aside, are they blaming the coders or the ai on the slower project turnout?
We’re in the honeymoon phase, shit didn’t hit the fan yet. Problem is we devs are fucked either way. If productivity does increase, then workforce demand will go down especially for entry level devs and seniors will be relegated to vibe coding and fixing AI bugs. If it all goes south then layoffs, because line must go up!
Fine do whatever you want to your shit company stop forcing me to use copilot on everything. This is worse than the failed clippy
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At my company too but it’s owned by yet another cancerous private equity firm so it was expected.
I wonder, did they have to do this when search engines became a thing 🤔
You don’t need to wonder, you can just Bing™ it!
It’s the same in Amazon software development. We have like 3 different AI tools. I enjoy it for unit tests and predicting the next two lines of a simple thing, but it’s not going to refactor our codebase.
“Have any of you realized how much money we spent on this?!”
Basically, yeah.
“But the results are objectively much worse than if I just did it myself, sir!”
“You’re firing me for using AI to read and respond to your email?”
You have 10 minutes to clear your desk and get out. Not a team player!
American employers don’t even give you this anymore. You are escorted away by security and someone else empties your shit into a box and hands it to you in the lobby. They are very afraid of sabotage.
When did they ever? I remember when one of my parents got fired in the 90s, they sent the stuff from the desk in a box. Including the company desk phone!
Seems like in the USA everyone gets treated badly all of the time, except the very richest.
Either that, or you make yourself indispensable. What the C-Suites do all day, I have no idea. Whatever it is isn’t working though.
Can’t wait for code quality to drop, work to become more inefficiwnt and microsoft ditching AI
Windows is already garbage when humans are codeding it.
At your next job interview ask them if they are results driven or methodology driven. “If I were to take twice as long to do something by using a poorly designed tool will I be rewarded or punished?”
Good luck with that Microsoft
I can tell
Same at my company. The frustrating part is they want us to use coding assistance, which is fine, but I really don’t code that much. I spend most of my time talking to other teams and vendors, reading docs, filing tickets, and trying to assign tasks to Jr devs. For AI to help me with that I need to either type all of my thoughts into the LLM which isn’t efficient at all or I need it to integrate with systems I’m not allowed to integrate with because there are SLOs that need to be maintained (i.e. can’t hammer the API and make others experience worse).
So it’s pretty much the same as it’s always been. Instead of making a gallon of lemonade out of one lemon I need to use this “new lemonade machine” to start a multinational lemonade business.
The key highlight being: you don’t need more than a gallon of lemonade. I for once wished big corps heard their engineers and domain experts over wall street loving exec’s.
Why would they do that? If they’re making better quarterly results by listening to Wall St, that’s what the system tells them to do.
Ditto.
But I manage a team of embedded developers. On a specialised commercially restricted embedded platform.
AI does not know a thing about our tech. The stuff it does know is either a violation of the vendors contractual covenants or made up bullshit. And Our vendor’s documentation is supplemented by a cumulative decades of knowledge.
Yet still “you gotta use AI”.
Apparently no longer optional for their customers either, based on how hard they are pushing it in Office 365, sorry Microsoft 365, no sorry Microsoft 365 Copilot.
The latest change of dumping you into a Copilot chat immediately on login and hiding all the actually useful stuff is just desperation incarnate.
The process to log in to the online portal of Outlook is so bad it’s crossed into comical territory. So much friction, only to shunt you to a full screen
clippycopilot page.I’d be curious to know what the usage statistics are for that page. Like, what could a person possibly accomplish there?
