• FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    If you let the tantruming baby have his way all the time, he’ll continue expecting to get his way all the time when he’s older

  • CircaV@lemmy.caOP
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    4 months ago

    What’s this about the wheat export market? Can you provide details?

  • Daniel Quinn@lemmy.ca
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    5 months ago

    Why would the Conservatives bring this government down, when it’s doing everything they want and taking the blame?

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      the conservatives are a joke and they wouldn’t bring the gov down as you suggest, but the Block and the NDP may and either would get my vote at this point… Carney could not have been more backstabby to the people that gave him the PM seat at this point

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      4 months ago

      I mean… On the things to cave on… Caving on a tax paid by CANADIANS is not the worst thing in the world.

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        But the bigger part here is that we finally stopped trade negotiations, and now we can assume this means they are starting again

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    Y’all are remembering that it’s us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It’s not going to affect any company’s bottom line in the slightest.

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        Becuase it maaaaaaybe dissuades SOME people from buying the service so there’s maaaaaaybe less revenue for the mega corps.

        So yea… It maybe kinda sorta… Hurts mega corps, but it absolutely is a tax paid by Canadians.

        Now you might say the tax is good because it funds shit for Canadians, but that’s a separate argument.

        So yea, this is maybe? good for Canadians, since Canadians are getting absolutely FUCKED by anything digital / mobile / internet related.

        If anything I’d love to see the Canadian market forced open for US telecoms, because as shitty as telecom is in the US its far FAR worse in Canada.

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          Does it target the billionaire tech bros or will Canadians pay it? Which one is it?? If Canadians are gonna pay it - why would Trump care? If it targets billionaire bros - big whoop! It’s so small it doesn’t even register.

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            Canadians pay it and are hopefully turned to other options, smaller companies, and hopefully Canadian ones. That would drive Amazon’s business down, and that hurts the billionaires more than the tax.

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      It only applies to a few enormous corporations, that mostly generate revenue through ad sales.

      Would Canadian companies really all have increased their Facebook ad budgets over this? I kinda doubt it, tbh

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      4 months ago

      You can stop copy and pasting this, it’s not true

      About the tax

      The digital services tax applies at a rate of 3% on revenue earned from:

      • Certain digital services that rely on engagement, data, and content contributions of Canadian users

      • Certain sales or licensing of Canadian user data

      Canadian digital services revenue is calculated on a calendar year basis and is earned from:

      • Online marketplace services

      • Online advertising services

      • Social media services

      • Certain sales of user data

  • Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca
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    As Canadians we cannot expect Carney to fix the problems on his own. We, as individuals, need to stop buying American to the fullest extent that we can and if we can’t buy Canadian either buy other countries or not at all. It’s amazing the stuff that you don’t actually need but have been manipulated into buying due to American advertising. It is hard to do it overnight but with time, most American products can be resourced.

    • CircaV@lemmy.caOP
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      I understand that Carney could have held on to it until the end of the negotiation. Instead he gave it up and got zip in return. Not to mention, the costs of the DST would have translated to higher costs to Canadians. So he was always gonna let that one go. The timing of it was not ideal.

      The only saving grace is if we go in on a DST with the EU later and if a deal is not struck by July 21 I fully expect the DST to be back on (seeing as it needs Parliament to be sitting in order to repeal which won’t be until September).

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    I always thought he DST was stupid so to me this is nothing more than placating Trump.

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        Canada’s implementation is different from other countries’:

        • It’s retroactive to 2022 - so the corps in question would have to drop a big payout in the first year.
        • It’s slightly higher than the UK tax that the yanks didn’t call out. (3% vs. 2%)

        I don’t know if I would call it stupid, but that retroactive thing seems odd. I don’t know much about corporate tax law, so maybe that’s a thing? I dunno.

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          I don’t get the hate, it seems like about time these ultra rich companies paid some taxes?

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            5 months ago

            I think the companies are the only ones who hate the DST. That and their puppet politicians.

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              the parent of this thread thinks it’s stupid, and got up voted but like zero explanation. Looking at their post history they don’t seem like a bot

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          The idea was to give the Americans time to negotiate something before the tax came into effect. If they didn’t do it in 3 years, I don’t know why Carney thinks giving in will lead to any benefit for Canada.

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          They were told about the implementation and the date active. They have chosen not to pay. The total to current date is due. Its like me not doing my taxes for seven years and receiving the letter from the cra that I had better bring my taxes to current year or face fines. Same deal for businesses.

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        The percentage seemed arbitrary and it being retroactive seemed excessive and unnecessary. We depend on US content so much you couldn’t possibly function on the internet without it. It’ll force the US to limit services so we’ll be forced to use Chinese or European services and for what benefit? I use an adblocker and pirate most my stuff so no one is making money off me.

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          The percentage seemed arbitrary and it being retroactive seemed excessive and unnecessary.

          What?! 3% We pay 8.79% on our income here. Three seems low.

          I feel like no facebook in canada would be a net positive, especially after reading “Carless people”. I don’t even think that would happen, it’s not like these companies can’t afford it, they just don’t want to set a precedent, and they spent all that money on trump!

          I use an adblocker and pirate most my stuff so no one is making money off me.

          You never use Amazon? I also use an adblocker and a pihole i think i see relatively fewer ads, i still see them.

          The one negative i can think of coming out of this is the companies passing the tax on to us, i suspect that wouldn’t happen.

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    Always remember who we voted against. We would need special instruments to measure how quickly Polyestre would have caved.

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      Yeah I know. PP is a Trump fluffer to the ultimate. He would have been an unmitigated catastrophe and it troubles me how close that fuckwhit came. And how he continues to try to remain. But unless Carney shows tangible results (which includes NOT capitulation to fash), his term as PM will be one and done.

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    Is that person a Canadian? Social media posts aren’t really indicative of the general feeling of a given populace. It’s dangerous to think otherwise.

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    Canadians are great hockey players … but no matter how good they are, they’ll still cave in if they are offered a million dollar contract and throw the game