• mikenurre@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Or another way to look at it- cutting nearly 75% of scientists. Can’t have climate change if there’s no one working! Watch them find some money to give to ExxonMobile to ‘study’ the impacts of fossil fuels. Wonder what that report will say! /s

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      No need for the /s I fully expect that is what will happen. Also a great firewall, so yanks can’t access unapproved information from over seas

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      It absolutely won’t be.

      But it might be moving in the right direction.

      Regardless, will take decades/generations to fully recover from this, if ever.

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        No, you’ll never recover. Your previous status was the result of a very specific set of historical circumstances (specifically the fact that you were the only major power left standing after World War 2) that aren’t going to repeat. If you fall, the best you can hope for in terms of recovery is to equal the other developed countries of the world. You’ll never exceed them again.

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          I believe the same. They will recover eventually, but they will never be a superpower again.

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          Unfortunately Americans cannot stand being told they don’t live in the greatest country on earth. It’s a wonder that fascism took this long to win in the US, because it’s fundamentally hyper-compatible with American Exceptionalism which every American besides a tiny fraction of far-leftists believe to be inherently and unshakably true.

          Where do you go from there when most of your population wouldn’t accept a trade alliance that doesn’t massively favor the US? Because even if Trump is impeached tomorrow that’s what Fox News will be running all day every day to successfully torpedo anyone attempting to rebuild the country.

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          Which is fine. Really would love to not have a fall happen, but ultimately if the rest of the world can thrive and move forward even with our current idiocracy taking hold, I can live with that. All I hope for is that this will pass and we can rise up from it.

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        Especially given that even in the best case scenario the period of recovery will be 8 years maximum. No matter who will be the next president, the one after will be another angry conservative, and I don’t believe there will be a lot of progress after.

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    Hey Europe and Canada, anyone still looking for a scientist that just wants to do lab work? I prefer chemistry, but am happy with micro too. Just let me interpret data, please. I’m stuck somewhere where titrations are the most complex process.

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      4 months ago

      The pharma industry is currently booming in Denmark (Novo and others are expanding like crazy), so perhaps you could try and look into that

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      If you have an Irish grandparent you can get a passport. Lots of work here and Americans are welcome.

      Otherwise work visas that turn into residency aren’t difficult to come by with sponsorship and it’s not the kind of sponsorship that makes you a slave.

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        How about a great grandparent. My grandma was born in NYC but great grandad came from Ireland into Ellis island.

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          Mmmm. I’m not sure tbh but I don’t think so. If your grandmother had an Irish passport though that might work. Worth checking if you’re considering it.

          My sister lives in the UK a long time now and all her kids have an Irish passport. It’s actually a great passport to have for travel. EU is obviously wide open but most places accept it without much (or zero) effort.

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      This is something I think a lot of people don’t realize; It’s a cascading failure. It’s not just that some competent people will leave the country. The rest of their teams will have to bear the extra burden and be demoralized. They will then feel compelled to leave as well.

      It’s happened numerous times in both the public and private sectors. Now they’re deliberately trying to do this shit on a national scale. If we ever recover from this, it’s going to take decades…

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    Deeply unserious managers of empire continue to self-cannibalize their own productivity in an effort to go even more all-in on financial capital, all while the global south is doing its best to pivot towards more favorable relations with countries like China. When the US Empire runs out of countries to exploit, and financial capital ceases to be profitable, it will have no developed industrial base nor a strong scientifically trained worker base to pull itself back up. The US is cooked, this is just speedrunning the demise of the empire in a faster and harder fashion.

    The good news is that the worse this gets, the more favorable the conditions for organizing become, and the more vulnerable to revolution the state becomes. We can legitimately take advantage of this, and gain mastery over capital, rather than the inverse. We can re-industrialize, become socialist, and begin the long and difficult but necessary path towards legitimate progress. It won’t be easy, but it will be doable.

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      You jest, but even though I hate a lot about the Trump regime, I’m glad that it is eating out its own military capacity like this. It’s like when you’re incredibly sick in bed, and then it gets a little better for a while.

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    This doesn’t really save money. It does however create a burning of the books effect.

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      I dont think anyone cares about money anymore.

      They can see the problems arising from climate change on the horizon and they’re creating a ruling class and a subservient class.

      If you’re part of the ruling class you dont need money.

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    I’ve figured this out. If MAGA gets rid of all the smart people, they won’t seem as dumb anymore!

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      This reminds me of a particularly hilarious scene from The Death of Stalin where they have all the country’s best doctors lined up to save Stalin after his heart attack, but they are all bumbling idiots and Stalins men get angry about how incompetent they are until someone reminds them that Stalin literally killed all the best and most capable doctors in the soviet union out of paranoia.

      And so, Stalin dies.

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    Welcome to Europe, researchers!

    Lots of great choices and don’t worry, you can move to France without knowing French or Denmark without knowing Danish!

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      wait you dont actually need to know French or Danish? How’s the local perception of English speaking foreigners, i.e. is it offensive to respond in English if the waiters/locals ask in French?

      Tbh the language barrier is 1 of the reasons holding me back. Havent tried for positions in France and Denmark yet, but for the ones I looked in Germany and Spain, you need to know German or Spanish. Even the job ads are in German/Spanish…

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        Yeah he knew about ten words of Danish after over three years there before he moved to Germany. Even his lectures were in English which I was surprised at.

        He has had to learn a little German but not that much and he’s there about 18 months now. The office he works in has folks from all over so they just use English.

        Netherlands also in my experience basically everyone can speak perfect English.

        I prefer to try to use a bit of the local language when I’m travelling myself as I find folks react well to the effort.

        I’m terms of offence, it’s unlikely. I’d imagine tourists are common enough everywhere. I have reasonable French myself so I do try to use it when there so I can’t say for France specifically.

        If you’ve any other questions I can pass them on to the young lad.

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        Spain is a better choice, but in Germany are more people speaking English, on the other hand pretty right wing. But in academic circles it becomes irrelevant.

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        As a Spaniard and former researcher myself, in Spain you can also move without learning Spanish, just apply to the offers in English in Barcelona or Madrid. Those are the best positions anyway. You will struggle more than in Denmark for sure without it, but it’s just because a lot of people speak very little or very poorly. In the big cities it’s much better though.

        Long term I’d advise you to keep looking in the north of Europe, Spain is likely to fuck researchers over again as they did during the 2008 crisis.

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      How is the price of a cryptocoin even relevant to this post?

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        It’s a graph of the global status of the US, you can put in any value of your choice