It goes without saying, DVDs/BlueRays.

    • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      5 个月前

      I don’t know of any millennial or younger who assumes there will be a safety net for them at the end of the road. We just don’t trust those in charge to keep it. I’ll fight for it, I paid into it and I want others to have it, but I can’t bank on it either

      • Scrollone@feddit.it
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        5 个月前

        There’s simply no way to keep pensions. It’s like a big pyramid scheme where new people are putting the money and old people are enjoying them; the problem is that old people are growing and they’ve been living longer, and young people are less and less.

        • msage@programming.dev
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          5 个月前

          The problem is the owners don’t pay their fair share, nothing else.

          Productivity has risen to cover everything.

    • huquad@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      5 个月前

      Fuck that, we’ll burn it all down if they take social security from us. It’s largely paid from existing taxes as it is. We just need to get through this shit show of an administration first. That or pray Mario shows up

      • deur@feddit.nl
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        5 个月前

        then you made incredibly uninspiring use of the tools and nobody will miss your participation.

        • BlackPenguins@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          5 个月前

          Participation in what? A quick search on how to fix my toilet and how a toilet works. You think I was going to sign up for a toilet message board and chat?

          • WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            10
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            5 个月前

            Not trusting Chat-GPT results, which are known to hallucinate false information, as your primary search method is a silly take? AI was telling people to put glue on pizza to keep the cheese from falling off. If you can see that the source of that information is a Reddit shitpost, you are way more likely to make a good judgment call about the veracity of that information.

            If you want searches without sponsored results, use SearXNG or an equivalent that strips out the ads.

            • BlackPenguins@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              5 个月前

              You can actually ask for its sources now and fact check yourself. But just like anything you read online, use common sense. I’d see those same results in a Google search too.

                • BlackPenguins@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  5
                  ·
                  5 个月前

                  If it’s something serious, yes. Like fixing something. I also use it as an idea generator. I needed to figure out why my toilet wasn’t flushing. It suggested the flapper. So then I went to YouTube and looked up a video on how to install it once it pointed me in a direction.

            • venusaur@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              6
              ·
              5 个月前

              The silly take is that using it is “part of the problem”.

              Also, the glue on pizza thing is nearly a moot point. The models are much more advanced now and will continue to be.

              The commercial LLM’s can share their sources now so that’s also a moot point.

              It’s not going away. Learn to use it effectively.

        • BlackPenguins@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          5 个月前

          Yeah I do realize the inevitable problem when their sources dry up because no one is communicating anymore but for the quick questions about how something works in the world it’s extremely convenient. I’d just be asking Google anyway.

          • WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            11
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            5 个月前

            But you can’t see the source of the information, which means it could be a reputable source, or it could be Joe-Sucks-His-Own-Dick from Reddit. In another comment, I pointed out that AI was telling people to put glue on pizza to keep the cheese from falling off—if you can see the source, you are much more likely to understand the veracity of the information.

        • moseschrute@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          5 个月前

          Not defending this, but it’s annoying because Google and all search engines results are being poisoned by AI written slop. It seems like LLMs may provide a better search experience, but it’s also the thing ruining the search experience.

          I don’t really know what I’m talking about, but I imagine if AI slop is ruining search, it will also start to ruin itself when the current slop is used to train future LLMs. Basically I think AI will short circuit itself long term.

          Now, will it short circuit itself enough for Microsoft to stop shoving it down our throats, probably not.

  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    5 个月前

    I don’t know about DVDs, nearly 2 decades ago I thought optical media was dead and yet somehow it’s still here.

  • feinstruktur@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    5 个月前

    Cash, at least in europe. In my opinion that decision would mark one of the most epic political fails in recent history but I fear, that’s what’s going to happen.

    • balsoft@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      5 个月前

      I just hope that something like GNU Taler (which keeps buyers’ privacy and forces sellers to report their earnings properly) becomes the norm, as opposed to the proprietary plastic card transactions we have now. I myself am guilty of switching to that system because cash is just insanely inconvenient, but I also recognize it’s pretty bad.

      • octobob@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        5 个月前

        There are a few countries like Sweden and India that are pushing more and more towards all digital payments and slowly trying to wean off cash. I think this is terrible for a number of reasons.

        The big one is I work on the side as an electrician from my day job. I get paid in cash (it’s usually only like 5-10 hours a week). I save up that money and have been paying my plumber or tile guy for work that I don’t want to tackle on my own at my house. There’s a whole undercurrent of labor and an economy that gets paid in cash that does not need uncle Sam’s prying eyes. I imagine it will be a long time before banks would stop taking cash in countries pushing for everything to be digital, but who knows.

        The other reason is the more vulnerable people in society. You can’t tell me that making everything cashless and only payable via smart phone doesn’t massively screw someone over who’s homeless. A lot of people only get by via panhandling and if suddenly they can’t buy food or ride public transit without a phone that is connected to cell service, that is a massive barrier.

        Lastly, all cash restaurants and bars. They’re still common in my area. Things are usually a little cheaper there and I like paying cash for a few drinks. Or like the one bar I go to is still kinda lawless haha, a PBR is $2.

        • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          5 个月前

          Yeah those are all pretty valid. Going cashless requires a lot more from society than just giving everyone an app.

          Or like the one bar I go to is still kinda lawless haha, a PBR is $2.

          lmao you should see how cheap liquor is in asia.

      • Maeve@kbin.earth
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        5 个月前

        Because iso/power failures, lost/broken devices, let alone the government doesn’t need to know every transaction, the inability to gift a displaced person $20, or money in a birthday card.

          • Maeve@kbin.earth
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            5 个月前

            "want to hide” != Privacy. Maybe I want to donate anonymously. Maybe I want to leave $5 in a community pantry or pay a backyard mechanic. Maybe I want to pay a neighbor for picking up milk for me. Maybe in a world of always on surveillance, it’s a small act of resistance.

          • Coding4Fun@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            5 个月前

            It is not a matter to “want to hide”. It is more a matter to “need to know” access to my personal information. Why government want to know where and when I buy my stuffs? And most important, who will have acces to that? US recently saw that imbecile of Elon Musk being grant access to IRS data.

          • 3abas@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            5 个月前

            The comparison was to cash, not credit cards. The government doesn’t know who I hand cash to.

        • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          5 个月前

          Wechat and Alipay do all that except the not keeping a record of transactions. There’s tons of food places where the entire payment system is just a printed QR code and they just tell you how much to pay so there’s nothing that can go down except the phone network and wifi.

          You can also just give people money, which seems like it shouldn’t work with a credit card because it’s technically a cash advance. There’s been a dozen times where a store that requires everything go through an app so they can make you click through 3 menus advertising discounts if you buy more items wouldn’t work because I didn’t have a Chinese number or something, and the employee would put in the order, then I’d give their personal account the money.

            • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              5 个月前

              Oh yeah, no in America or Europe, if everyone used an app to do basic functions like buying food, it would be exploited to make everything worse, no shot that it would be regulated in a way that favors the people rather than the banks.

              • Maeve@kbin.earth
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                5 个月前

                There are still power and internet outages possible, climate disasters aren’t going to only hit those who deserve it.

                • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  5 个月前

                  Sure, nothing is lower tech than locked box with a slot in it, except maybe accepting IOUs, but most businesses that handle cash today still go down if power goes out, cell service is a little more reliable though.

      • feinstruktur@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        5 个月前
        1. Resiliance: No (electrical) power, no servers, no transactions, no (a bit exaggerated) society.
        2. Full corporation surveillance. Even worse: Performed by unsupervised and proprietary algorithms.
        3. Following 2) full governmental surveillance.
        • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          5 个月前

          Regarding 2 and 3, theres a qualitative difference between the chinese government mandating corporations respect privacy and not retain or use biometric data and the US doing so (with the EU somewhere in the middle, usually), and what they have historically used that data for.

          Regarding 1, in the event of a total societal collapse where not even phone towers are running, I’m not sure how much utility money would have.

    • mriswith@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      5 个月前

      Unless something huge and world-altering happens, there is a 100% chance that it will not disappear in ten years. That would take generations because of the outliers. Although it will massively reduce in usage, and it wouldn’t surprise me if non-food stores begin to phase out cash purchases in a decade.

      China is already demonstrating this, since pretty much everything is paid for with a phone these days. And some vendors are using “no cash” signs.

  • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    5 个月前

    I feel like DVDs/Blurays already disappeared 10 years ago and are now making a comeback. Same for CDs. Streaming services don’t let you own anything, and if they pull something down, you’re SOL. Self hosting Plex and ripping my own disks has given me a level of freedom not possible with netflix et. al. Especially since DVDs are considered garbage to most people now, you can set up your own streaming service for you and your friends and family for cheap. No piracy necessary.

    • balsoft@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      5 个月前

      Physical media is the only media you really own.

      Hard disagree. You can own any file encoded with an open standard. And it’s easier to index, search, manipulate, back up, etc. It feels more like owning than having the data on a micrometer-thick metal layer sandwiched in a fragile plastic disc that can easily scratch or discrot. There is a reason people have been ripping CDs since PC CD drivers became a thing.

  • fjordo@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    5 个月前

    I’d say charging cables / most kinds of wires.

    People are used to and comfortable with wireless charging these days despite it being spotty in terms of availability.

    Better charging rates and capacity to power larger appliances might end up with you having a completely wireless home.

    • rumimevlevi@lemmings.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      5 个月前

      Only true wireless charging would kill wired chargers. The so called wireless charger still need to be charged with a cable

    • deur@feddit.nl
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      5 个月前

      Wireless charging is slow, inefficient, and straight up wastes power. It’s not that great.

        • wewbull@feddit.uk
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          5 个月前

          Not really. Power induction through air is inherently lossy. That’s just physics.

        • amorpheus@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          5 个月前

          If you don’t require it to replace cables it doesn’t need to. For adding some energy to the device while it’s on your desk or nightstand it works perfectly fine.

          The efficiency issue is also exaggerated, phones don’t take much power to begin with. Anyone using AC or warm water for convenience is doing much worse in terms of spent energy.

            • amorpheus@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              5 个月前

              Your Wi-Fi also needs a cable if you want to be pedantic.

              The benefit is that there is no overhead involved, in theory you don’t even have to think about charging your phone ever again. When it’s not in use, just leave it on some of the dedicated places around the house and office that provide wireless charging.

    • dingus@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      20
      ·
      5 个月前

      I’ve heard this before. But the biggest downside of wireless charging for me is I can’t use my device while it’s charging. Wireless chargers in the vast majority of scenarios aren’t even getting rid of wires. You still need to connect the wireless charger to the wall with a cable.

    • lorty@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      5 个月前

      Funnily enough I recently had to disable ipv4 in a game because of connection issues.

    • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      5 个月前

      My ISp shares a single IPv4 between multiple customers, NAT 444.

      So my PC is on 192.168.1.4 on the LAN, my router is on 10.183.13.62 on my ISPs network and some number of customers are sharing 84.146.73.54

      They don’t give out IPv6 addresses though.

  • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    18
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    5 个月前

    Tablets.

    The market for them is very thin. With phones getting bigger and convertible laptops being more lightweight I don’t see much market for tablets.

    Which is a shame because it’s s good format for comic reading and more durable than a convertible laptop (they always break by the hinges) but I think in ten years it will be quite hard to find a tablet for sale.

    • balsoft@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      5 个月前

      Unless digital artists are replaced with AI entirely, I don’t see that happening. iPads (unfortunately) are kind of the golden standard there. If anything I expect drawing tablets without screens to disappear.

    • Scrath@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      23
      ·
      5 个月前

      Honestly I would say it might go the other way with laptops disappearing and being replaced with tablets.

      The operating systems and software on tablets is getting ever more capable even for productivity stuff. Add to that newer generations growing up while using mostly smartphones and maybe sometimes a computer and I believe if having to decide they would choose a tablet over a laptop. In general the line between laptops and tablets is getting a bit blurry with windows based tablet PC’s and tablets that come with a keyboard cover.

  • juliebean@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    5 个月前

    my answer varies quite a bit depending on whether we mean tech that will be relegated to specific niche use cases and markets, tech that will no longer be produced at all, or tech that can’t be found any more, even used.

    the first category could include a lot of things, like most of the other suggestions that have already been suggested here, but i don’t think there’s any chance of blu-ray discs or desktop computers being totally gone in that time frame. the second category will probably include small gasoline powered cars, at least in some countries. and the third category will probably include most standard incandescent or CFL light bulbs, but they might still exist in some niche applications.

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      5 个月前

      I imagine incandescent will remain if for no other reason than lava lamps. They’ve got just enough fans and the incandescent is perfect for them. If their manufacture goes away some niche uses company will probably pick them up.

      Period focused lighting may also use them. And, now I’m remembering the monthly or so task of having to replace light bulbs back when I was a kid. It feels like a ridiculous old timey thing these days, like milkmen.

      • brisk@aussie.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        5 个月前

        Lava lamps actually don’t have any fans, the motion is driven by convection instead! /jk