• HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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    The problem you have here is that it’s simply not an important issue for most people that are likely to vote in this election. It’s not even in the top ten most important issues for the overwhelming majority of people. Harping on this issue does nothing to help, won’t change the core position, and is likely to end up harming the cause of stopping genocide.

    “Soft on terrorism” is a good way to lose a fairly large chunk of voters (because the Oct. 7 attack was terrorism, no matter how you want to justify it). “Opposing genocide” only attracts a very, very small number of voters that wouldn’t have already been voting Democratic.

    Is this shitty? Sure. Welcome to the worst nightmare of all: reality.

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      That’s just not fucking true dude.

      Every person Ive heard of who would normally be rank and file for Harris and ain’t this year it’s because of the genocide.

      It’s fucking ridiculousness that she’s left herself this open to failure because of some lobbyists.

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        You’re simply wrong.

        For voters that lean Democratic, the top issues are healthcare (76%), SCOTUS appointments (73%), abortion (67%), economy (68%), climate change (62%), gun policy (59%), racial and ethnic equality (56%), and finally foreign policy (54%). Foreign policy covers a lot of ground, and it’s number 8 overall on the list of most important things to Democratic voters. While it’s hard to find polling on the genocide in Palestine specifically, the number of people for whom that is the most important factor is very, very low

        It may be true that, of the people who are normally back-the-blue-no-matter-who that aren’t this year, that it comes down to genocide in Palestine, it’s simply not true for voters as a whole. You can argue that it should be important, but–again–“soft on terrorism” is not a winning strategy in a national political race, and that’s exactly how Republicans spin any support for the tens of thousands of Palestinian non-combatants that have been genocided by Israel. Including the Palestinians in the West Bank that are being murdered by Jewish right-wing extremists.

        I hope Harris wins, and I hope that she does more than Biden has been willing and able to do. But if Trump wins, then we’re pretty much guaranteed that Israel is going to eliminate all Palestinians in the region.

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          I’m not wrong and you are citing something focused on “all” of democratic voters. I’m not taking about “all” voters; I’m specifically talking about the 2-3% of uncommitted voters in swing states for whom a genocide is a bridge too far

          She needs to target a specific voter block that are literally registered democrats who are struggling to justify this vote. Yes, a small group, but you can not blame Arab American and Muslim voters for not voting for Harris. Harris has to move on this issue and it’s enough voters to get her back into the black in states that she literally just went from winning, to now losing.

          I mean shit, steal Pelossi’s move and just become very critical of Netantahu. Literally it’s too late for AIPAC to do shit. I’m not even asking for a campaign promise here. A strongly worded statement or comment. Give us something, literally anything to try and get her maybe +3 in these races.

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            Good, vote for Trump, or stein or whoever.

            I promise if you and all the people who consider Palestine their key issue voted for Trump it would still make absolutely no difference in the election.

            But please, prove me wrong.

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        Every person YOU have heard of- in your bubble. They’re not talking about your friends. Your coworkers there taking about average voters. I’ve seen your nonsense here- you’re not average.

        It’s not an important issue to a lot more people than you think. And yes, it sucks that people aren’t paying attention to it as they should, but look around man…

        We are about to lose our democracy. Bigger fish to fry here at home.