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    Mamdani: It’s about the policies

    Democrats: Gee whiz, you ran such a good campaign

    Voters: It’s about the policies

    Democrats: Gosh, if only centrists could find such a charismatic guy.

    They think everyone but them is so stupid. It’s infuriating that the system is set up so we’re forced to work with these twats.

    We found that charismatic centrist they’re looking for. His name is Barack Obama, and we’re still dealing with the fallout of him campaigning on “change” and failing to deliver.

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      Gosh, if only centrists could find such a charismatic guy.

      The Overton window has moved so far right that the DNC only has humorless executives and dead faced lawyers left as candidates.

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      Because of Obama I had health insurance. Because of Obama I was not in medical bankruptcy.

      But then again that was almost 10 YEARS AGO. Blaming a black American man for White Backlash is so American it hurts.

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        The last time a non-change candidate won a presidential election in the US was 2004. No president since Obama has had enough of a majority in congress to enact meaningful change, and it was squandered. It’s not entirely his fault, but as the leader of the Democrats at the time he takes the plurality of responsibility. The ACA started off as a change that could have fixed healthcare in the US but got watered down into propping up a fundamentally broken system.

        Trying to deflect a politicians legitimate failures as racism or sexism is so Democrat it hurts. Yes, racism and sexism played a part in Trump winning, but discontent with the status quo pushed him over the finish line. If racism and sexism alone are enough to fuel the Trump regime and keep it in power, then I guess it’s time to flee the country, because we’re a lost cause.

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            Less infighting and more pushing things forward would have been great too. Playing for reelection is a loosing position; I want to see more aggression with policy change.

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          Leaders move masses. Look at Lincoln, look at either Roosevelt (who didn’t even come from the working class). They had a vision and they pulled the country towards that vision. I refuse to believe that out of 350million of us there aren’t a couple people capable of being real leaders. ‘we don’t have the votes’ - so get them. Bernie Sanders was polling at less than 1% when he entered the race against Clinton, and he nearly beat her by building a movement. The reason they don’t have the votes is because they don’t want them. They don’t actually believe in progressive policies.

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          You mean Bush? The meltdown happened before the election. By the time Obama got in office his choices were to finish the plan in place, or create even worse short term upheaval by changing plans.

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            True. I forgot. Democrats can’t just stop Republican policies when they have full control. Only Republicans can stop Democrat policies. And Obama executing the Bush plan to bail out all the banks and brutally surpress occupy wall street was not his fault. My bad.

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                The specific uniform of the thugs brutalising protestors is really not the important part.

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                You’re right this makes it better. Trump using the national guard to arrest 1 (one) protester is what crossed the line for me. It’s not about abuse of violence to violate the right to protest and protect the billionaire class. What matters is that Trump did a thing very slightly differently.

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                  I mean, you had a point about the bailouts. I just don’t think you can blame the suppression of Occupy Wall Street protestors on Obama himself. He wasn’t the only neoliberal in charge in 2011. Sure, the FBI and DHS were keeping tabs, but it was the NYPD that did the violent suppression, under orders from Mayor Bloomberg.

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              Tbf to the previous poster, the Republican party is great at setting up sabotaging and impossible choices for when a democrat is elected. E.G. the tax bill TACO passed in his first term that was set to raise taxes for all people making under 75k in 2025. E.G.2 The troop widthdraw plan in the Middle East that had no preparation done before Biden came to office and all those munitions were left behind.

              On your point though, yeah the Dems are beyond completely incompetent each time they have one of those situations. It’d be nice if they stopped pretending politeness and passivity was the same as having good morals.

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    They’ve spent more time and effort going after Mamdani than they did trying to stop the “Big Beautiful Bill.”

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      Hey, don’t be disingenuous, they got the name changed in the senate and Booker stood tall with his little-league baseball bat! You can’t expect perfection!

      le sigh

      /S because this is the world we live in…

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    Nice, I think this is the most honest confirmation that Mamdani is in fact the best candidate.

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    “Democrats will be doing a disservice to the people they wish to serve

    So… billionaires

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    This whole situation has been the final straw for me and my support of the Democratic party. I used to think they were just incompetent and disorganized but this has shown that they are perfectly willing to openly sell our country to fascists to keep someone who is actually going to make a change for the positive out. I have never seen the democratic party unify so solidly behind anything other than hating on this guy.

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      If they actually gave a fuck about fascism like they claim they’d be doing real shit with real people. Out in the streets leading the charge like the leaders they’re supposed to be. At most you get a speech and “good luck with all that stuff I’m off to the next comfy event I have scheduled”

      Instead they “try” with bullshit hearings - that only serve as sound bite harvesting sessions - and bullshit bills - that they know won’t amount to anything anyway. They only care that their select faction of rich fucks aren’t the ones benefit the most of all the rich fucks. They only care that the bombs, cages, trampling of rights, and preventable deaths aren’t under their command.

      If they didn’t secretly love fascism, they’d be out telling people how to arm themselves and build solidarity in their communities. They’d be telling people how to protect themselves and those around them from the violence of the state. Instead it’s a lot of “trust in the system and make sure you vote again ❤️🏳️‍🌈✊✊🏿 oh yeah and be back to work on Monday, we got more bombs to drop”

      These aren’t your folks, my dudes.

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      No joke. Fuck’em. I’d sooner throw my lot in with actual leftists than have it be counted for these useful idiots and Vichy assholes that capitualte to fascism daily.

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      They are extremely competent and organized, just not for you. Welcome to reality.

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      Mamdani is the officially recognized Democratic nominee. So third party is exactly what this asshole is advocating for.

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        You kinda can’t blame them. Anytime they do anything that helps young people they sit out the midterms. Biden’s student loan forgiveness, Obama’s Affordable Care Act. The media scores points calling it radical socialist agenda while alli the radical socialists sit out the next election

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    I love how this asshole talks about “cannibalizing support” when he’s openly against the officially recognized Democratic nominee for mayor.

    What a fucking joke. I hope to fuck he gets primaried too. We need to stop letting these corpo democrats suck up all the oxygen in the room.

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    I don’t understand.

    Mamdani is bad for New York because of what Trump has done?

    While simultaneously using Trumpspeak?

    Unity will allow the democrats to prevail?

    A glob of unified uselessness is just as useless

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      Nooo you can’t do economic populism to win an election you’re support to run solely on identity politics and protect the billionaire class! - Democrats.

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    I am so sick of seeing people abuse the word “tremendous” like this following in asshat’s footsteps, but at least it’s a nice, straightforward way for me to identify people to hit with a baseball bat if I can ever get away with it.