• mriswith@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1721·
    5 个月前

    The three people were replaced with a guy who used to work at EA. And one of their first announcements was an unprompted “we wont put loot boxes in the game”…

  • MufinMcFlufin@lemmy.worldEnglish
    52·
    5 个月前

    Planning on not buying it, that being said I was likely never going to even if this controversy didn’t happen. I’m apparently part of 3% of Subnautica players on steam who really didn’t care for the game. Gave it a decent chance (7 hours playtime) and talked with several people who adore the game but found many aspects of the game to be overrated, poorly designed, or frustrating. Just about the only thing I can remember honestly enjoying about the game was the aesthetic, which even then was held back by some sometimes downright bad graphics.

  • LifeCoffeeGaming@lemmy.worldEnglish
    247·
    5 个月前

    Now this has been rather disproved, do we think we could retract the post? It’s probably done harm already but we can at least acknowledge it’s no longer accurate.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
      8·
      5 个月前

      What do you mean this has been disproven?

      Can you provide some context. A link maybe?

      • Tudsamfa@lemmy.worldEnglish
        95·
        5 个月前

        If you visit the official website of krafton https://www.krafton.com/en/ you should get this pop up:

        Basically, Krafton claims that the 3 founders they fired did not do their job in overseeing the project, leading to a game without any direction. Since the game would not meet their standards, they decided to rework a lot and push the release date back.

        This is an official statement of a company, meaning they can be (and if I read it correctly have been) sued for slander should they lie here. So a legal department looked over this and decided “Yep, we can claim that they abandoned responsibilities, we can prove that in court”. Whether or not this is actually true or just an attempt to regain public opinion, it’s a real shitshow.

  • Konraddo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    15·
    5 个月前

    Honestly, I do not plan to buy it after Below Zero. Now that they did all the evil stuff I guess my decision is well justified.

    • Swordgeek@lemmy.caEnglish
      72·
      5 个月前

      Probably not really feasible - it will require constant connection to a back-end server to play or some bullshit like that.

      But even if you can, that’s not the answer. The proper action is to deny them entirely. Don’t play the game, don’t play PUBG, don’t do anything that expands their reach, money or not.

      They need to suffer with NOBODY playing this game. They need to suffer by people deleting their Battlegrounds accounts. Software piracy is what makes games legendary.

  • maxwells_daemon@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13·
    5 个月前

    “But it’s still mostly the same team, please give us the benefit of the doubt 😭😭😭😭”

    Don’t be stupid, don’t buy from a publisher before the 1.0 release

    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      5 个月前

      I think Croteam has been able to have moderate success over the years, but being based in Eastern Europe might make them insulated from issues. Devolver only recently bought them, but they seem to be one of the few good publishers. I at least didn’t see their name on the Video Games Europe member list that’s opposed to SKGs.

      • Kyden Fumofly@lemmy.worldEnglish
        327·
        5 个月前

        Although Kerbal space program 2 had major issues from the dev team, only for the publisher to pull the plug because of how bad the progress was, and leave the game in permanent early access.

        • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          60·
          5 个月前

          Uh, its more like a new publisher bought the IP, functionally fired almost all of the original dev team, and then hired a bunch of other people who had no idea how their insanely modified version of Unity worked…

          And then the idiot in charge just started spamming out extremely grand and difficult to implement new core functionalities… with a team of mostly newbies who had no idea how anything worked.

          So, basically, they started out where KSP started out… and would very obviously thus need years and years and years to get it out of Early Access / Alpha state… but it needed to make money NOW, and it didn’t, so everyone got laid off (other than the idiot in charge), and the game was functionally abandoned, but not totally abandoned, because MY IP MINE NO YOU CANT HAVE IT!!!

          Or… maybe not? With regard to the IP rights?

          Nobody seems to know who actually owns the KSP IP at this point.

          https://techdriveplay.com/2025/01/03/kerbal-space-program-2-a-tale-of-corporate-neglect-and-failure/

          • cynar@lemmy.worldEnglish
            10·
            5 个月前

            It was even worse than that.

            They were basically given the KSP1 codebase and told to rewrite it to be better. However, KSP1 was still being developed, and they didn’t want to demotivate the KSP1 team. Therefore they were banned from even telling them it existed, let alone ask for help or advice with the existing codebase.

          • ByteJunk@lemmy.worldEnglish
            22·
            5 个月前

            I never understood the fixation on IPs. For a kick ass universe with amazing lore etc, ok sure.

            I mean I love Jeb and the gang as much as the next guy, but they’re not core to my enjoyment of KSP1. The mechanics were.

            • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              7·
              5 个月前

              Name recognition sells stuff. Somebody who loved KSP 1 will probably give KSP 3 a go, at least to a greater probability than an unrelated game in the same genre.

              • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                2·
                5 个月前

                Dean Hall and RocketWorkz of uh DayZ fame/infamy… are working on Kitten Space Agency… I dunno, maybe they could pull it off?

                Dean’s track record is really hit and miss imo, but hey, at least they actually give a damn and try, often with pretty bold / niche concepts.

            • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              7·
              5 个月前

              lol, RIP Jebs 1 - 48395.

              But uh yeah, the… the lore is basically:

              We made some cute little dudes and dudettes that are… possibly animated, sapient fungi? Or something?

              Anyway they are sm0l and live in sm0l solar system.

              And they have a space program.

              And most of the characters are just obvious cutesy knock offs of famous humans in spaceflight.

              Woo!

              lol

          • EldritchFemininity@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            9·
            5 个月前

            One of the original goals for KSP2 was the use of a new engine to get rid of the technical debt from the first game that caused issues like the Kraken…but then the publisher forced them to use the KSP engine because “it would speed up development.”

            It was doomed from the beginning.

            • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              3·
              5 个月前

              Yep.

              Having worked in software dev and db management professionally, and having been modding (as in making mods) all kinds of games for even longer… yep, I knew it was completely fucked almost immedeately, as soon as it was:

              Throw out most of the old dev team

              We are gonna rebuild the engine/game from the ground up

              Add in vastly complex features and capabilities at the same time

              On a horrendously unrealistic timeframe.

              …

              Normally, any two of those is extreme danger zone.

      • pory@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        5 个月前

        Didn’t sell out to a company or publisher with shareholder profit motives. Truly independent (not “indie” as slang for low budget) development teams don’t follow this pattern unless they sell their IP and studio outright.

        • wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          5 个月前

          I dunno, dwarf fortress seems to be doing alright for itself so far. Tarn and Zach really needed some more help and some graphic design backup. I don’t agree with the total abandonment of the keybindings system in favor of mouse clicks, but I understand that it was necessary to make the game’s learning curve less precipitous.

        • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
          10·
          5 个月前

          Coffee Stain’s another good example on the bigger end.

          It does seem like there’s a danger zone behind a certain size threshold. It makes me worry for Warhorse (the KCD2 dev), which plans to expand beyond 250.

    • burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      2·
      5 个月前

      It would make sense for it to be canon in the subnautica universe. I think they were pretty much the epitome of authors with an anvil with the references to economics and governing.

    • kautau@lemmy.worldEnglish
      82·
      5 个月前

      It’s a canon event for any game company that achieves moderate success gets acquired by investors

      Very much not exclusive to the game industry

        • kautau@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          5 个月前

          Makes sense, wasn’t untrue and I wasn’t criticizing, just wanted to make sure everyone remembers that the problem goes up the chain due to capitalism.

          Various companies/games were mentioned in the comments, but I think a good example is Hello Games. Clearly fumbled their game launch and were over ambitious with No Man’s Sky.

          But it’s gotten an incredible amount of things that were promised, and many things that weren’t, all as free updates. Sure, they’re still making money, that’s the point, but instead of Micro-transactions, overpriced DLC, fucking over the devs, shutting things down, they just keep rolling. I’m sure they’ve gotten offers of acquisition that were probably very lucrative, but they didn’t take them, and have continued their slow roll of making gamers happy.